I’d never heard of “Geezer Games” before this storm in a teacup, you come across as a naive, bullying, self important fool that has way too much time on their hands orchestrating personal grudge campaigns.
“I’m providing a YouTube platform” – By freely admitting you provide this platform you’re effectively behaving as a publisher. YouTube ban people because they know that they’re responsible as the publisher to remove defamatory etc. content. Your idea of “free speech” does not exist.
There are a couple of little things called the Malicious Communication Act 1988 and the Communications Act 2003
This covers things like “Online threats” and “Virtual mobbing” – both of which you’re freely admitting and guilty of.
“Amiga circle jerk” – this childish comment did amuse me, but only further cements to me your adolescence maturity.
“Guilty by association with George” well you would be as you then say “I support George”. It shows your level of character to support a such a spiteful turd of a human being.
As for the Retro Hour book – You seem to have a very confused idea of what a scam is. Putting out a product that clearly says what you’re getting, then actually getting for the agreed money you pay isn’t a scam. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. As for recycled content – that’s pretty rich from the guy that made an unoriginal copy of an old game then asked a ridiculous price for it. (Physical things cost a lot to produce right?)
“Dave Pleasance is a grifter” – almost amusing, but I’m sure he’s been called far worse in his time by far more respectable people than you.
“I tell you what I’m going to make a point of promoting Chris Wilkins Zzap event” – good for you, I expect it’ll be a great event. Not that he needs your help, I’ve no idea what point you’re trying to make by this?
Then come the threats – “I’m going to get to every single Amiga group” around the country…”when I bump into youse…and I will do I’m going to give you a real fucking piece of my mind because I tell you what, you’re a bunch of fucking arseholes. That’s all I want to say about it, I’m getting too fucking angry”.
Sounds like Rav made the right choice not to want someone that comes across like you there. Check the ticket of any event you’ve bought – the event managers have the right to refuse entry without refund.
As it happens I’m going to Zzap too, I’ll be sure to tell you what I think of you in no uncertain terms. What goes around comes around chump!
interesting, as that’s exactly what we believe everyone in the amiga circle jerk to be. graeme is none of the things you accuse him of, and your asshurt and willingness to defend the indefensible cancers of the “community” speaks volumes, pal. As for physical things costing a lot to produce, well, physical or not – a game takes a LONG time to make, be it a remake done from the ground up OR an original (graeme has done both). however, a bunch of edited youtube transcripts put into a book, meh, could be done in an afternoon. it’s zero effort. the analogy doesn’t stand up. as for threats, i don’t see any threats made. saying you’re going to make people aware of certain behaviour, and also stating you’re going to address the matter in person does not amount to a threat. there is no implication of threat here whatsoever. when private eye report on the skulduggery in higher echelons of british society, is that “threatening” ? of course it isn’t. don’t be so stupid. sticks and stones and all that. calm down and buy some balm for your asshurt. the first thing that usually happens when genuine, true facts are presented online is an attempt by those affected to shut them down. that’s not going to happen here. “Rav”, a personal friend, then ? nice of him to send over his friends to engage in “virtual mobbing”. honestly, the lexicon of cuntery that you prawns pull from is beyond pathetic. grow up and accept the mantle you’ve all chosen to wear. vampires, gatekeepers and charlatans, one and all !
i think you missed the point about everything, you absolutely rubbish individual. go away and learn english then come back to make even more of a fool of yourself, you complete berk.
still giving me a chuckle, that. it’s beyond stupid and it’s even better that you think deploying such gobbledegook actually puts you on a higher intellectual level than others here. it’s like trying to feed people shit and expecting them to believe it’s pizza. you’re a numbskull and a fart !
Am I meant to be offended of being accused of not knowing much about the Amiga community? Could it be your over inflated sense of self importance makes it seem inconceivable someone isn’t in what you’re peddling? Either way, I have many hobbies and not one unhealthy obsession.
What’s with all the “butt hurt”? Is that some kind of weird Geordie activity you get up to oop north? Or are we adding homophobic hate speech to the list?
I apologise for using words longer than four letters that aren’t expletives – that must make it terribly challenging for a person of such limited vocabulary.
I pity you for whatever life experience turned you into this spiteful bag of piss and bile, or maybe you’re just trying to be like a poor man’s Jonathan’s pie?
it wasn’t the words i took umbrage with, it was the completely moronic manner in which they were thrown together. “your adolescence maturity” doesn’t mean anything, if you’re going to pretend to be intelligent, try not to write like you’ve had a fucking lobotomy, you absolute fool. that’s the thing with tits like you, you genuinely think you’re special. you are, i suppose, but as in “special bus”, nothing more. you’re a prize wanker and have proved this time and time again with your moronic, unintelligent ramblings. you’re a prawn !
You wont do fuck all at Zzap if you’re such the tough guy you’re pretending to be you wouldn’t be hiding behind pseudonyms like you are here. Now fuck off back down into the pit you crawled out of Abaddon(jaysus you’re so scary).
You’ll find the grown MEN who go to Zzap are are quite different to the usual limp wristed wankers that turn up to the events you are used to going to mate. It will be a different crowd, so just be careful.
Dude, you’re really funny. Give me another one!
Zzap attendees 😂🤣
I wasn’t particularly looking forward to it, but I am now to see what grown men look like.
So you’re defiantly going which is great news, I’ll be looking forward to meeting you so you can tell me things too. Oh btw what color of nail varnish are you going to wear for the event?
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Preston Thomas
10 months ago
Why am I not shocked about all of this going down?
It’s almost like if they want to corner the Amiga community off, which is what David Pleasance was doing with that shit AGA 2023.
If Ravi wants to shit in his own nappy, then so be it. At the end of the day, you do a lot more within the community than he could ever do, and you get the respect for it.
Keep the good work up and don’t let any of these bastards get you down.
well said mate ! geezer has more amiga in his pinky than the retro hour can muster between the lot of them ! watch out this weekend for some great content here to run in tandem with kickstart 1, along with an amazing awards ceremony !
They didn’t get their Amigas until the 90s. I wanted an Amiga from the second I saw one, probably 86 or so. I got my A500 in 1987, still remember that day well. Seeing a demo of some photos on an A1000 and then they loaded up Starglider and I heard that little loading tune sample.
That’s a ridiculouss point of view. When they got Amigas does not matter and just makes you sound like an elitist twat just like them.
What matters is that these people are devoid of any talent whatsoever, yet are lauded by a bunch of even worse ghouls about their alleged “accolades”. All they do is sit around and create their whole “persona” around other people’s achievements, while thousands of people that are even more passive than that, people that are so, so beyond pathetic that they cannot even fire up a game to play and instead choose to sit down and watch an idiot on Twitch playing it for them, go around defending them, bigging them up, and generating this CIRCLEJERK that benefits no one but their own dopamine receptors.
As much as these people are beyond awful, everyone that supports them is the reason why they exist. They’re far worse.
i do agree on the supporters thing. it’s like when the top hat/lady dickhead (grotbags) stuff kicked off. people clamoured for “evidence” etc of their wrongdoings. i posted it in spades, with confirmed provenance, yet they still continued to support their false idols. it’s utterly bizarre. when presented with fact, people would rather believe lies. there’s nothing bad about admitting you’ve been led up the garden path, it happens to everyone, but in these days of personal echo chambers and bizarre online allegiances i suppose these people are just too “diehard” to admit they’ve been mugged off. i see no other reason as to why anyone would support any of these useless, braindead scumbags. also, full marks for deploying the word “ghoul”, it’s a personal favourite.
Yeah sorry, I did think that after writing. However I was only really pointing out that out in terms of experience and history. If you do a podcast about retro things then it sometimes can be an advantage to have been there. Of course LGR is quite a bit younger and covers all stuff, but then he tends to do his research better.
Mate you can educate yourself no matter your age or how long you’ve been interested in the subject matter. The fact that these people don’t know shit just speaks of their levels of willful ignorance. And it doesn’t matter, because hordes of even more idiotic cumgoblins are constantly giving them kudos about whatever shit they say they know about or activity they partake in.
As long as you can find the correct accurate information. Even the magazines of the day can be biased and full of it. One thing is for sure, avoid Wikipedia.
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P. Ness
10 months ago
I bet if Ravi had a real job he’d be the type of employee that’d keep HR busy.
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The Furthest Man From Home
10 months ago
25K for a book featuring transcripts from their old podcasts, was indeed an absolute sham.
Neil from RMC having Jane Whittaker as a guest, blocking comments highlighting how Jane has constantly lied to the community, sealed his fate.
Having Donald Pleasance as a guest, after he’s been caught trying to scam the community.
So glad I got out of the Retro scene, just when you think it can’t sink any lower, it does..
People have gotten to used to sites like Facebook, Youtube etc controlling people’s freedom of speech that they’re emulating it now. If you start picking and choosing who can come to your events it won’t last long.
There’s loads of people at events who if you sat them down for a debate on things would disagree and argue. Also, this Kickstart event is not the Retro Hour. Why do the two things have to be linked just because one person is involved in both?
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DaveR
10 months ago
Thanks for the video Graeme and clearing up your association with George, I be honest that I wasn’t even aware of him in the last month but can now see what type of character he is and although his contact is ‘funny’ it reminds me of Spitting Image back in the 90s when those who got impersonated didn’t like it. I get that and those here who are more public then others will be targetted. Now with regards u exhibiting I did put down on the Usergroup spread sheet that we could have a table of ‘New games’ as we had spare tables, we are doing a demo of Nivrig game, so I was thinking along those lines and I was about to talk to u about it as u said u was going (in our group chat) but then Ravi spoke to me and said well he doesn’t want to exhibit your games and I asked him why and it was because of the remarks from the videos to him, dan, rmc and others. So, sadly thats how that happened. However that said will be working with Zzap next month, sorting out SWAG’s plan and speaking of which if SWAG had a problem with an individual then we would have a group chat about it, we would try and discuss the problem and then take action as a group and not by one individual, at present I see no issue with you visiting and getting involved with any future meets as we grow, you clearing up your involvement with this website helped.
okay, so now that there’s backlash and it’s looking like the situation hasn’t gone in ravi’s favour it’s all backpedaling ? how typical. also, people being “targeted” has zero to do with their profile or visibility in the “scene”, it’s to do with them being arseholes, plain and simple. while my content is intended to be tongue in cheek i’m not lampooning people for zero reason, i’m merely spotlighting when someone has done something reprehensible like, for example, david pleasance and his plan to fleece the amiga community for something they already have and don’t need to pay for. however, clearly you feel different as he’s a guest of honour at the upcoming event. bad move. this doesn’t sit right with me, or a lot of people in the amiga community. while i respect the fact you’ve come to post here, i find the post to be contrived and feel that it’s been deployed simply for damage control/limitation at this point. where’s ravi’s apology ? a lot of people are very irritated by how graeme has been treated here, and until ravi addresses it without lying about it (as he has been doing) or deleting posts featuring the truth (as he has been doing) then they’ll continue to feel that way. all this “we’ll have a group chat and take action as a group” is just bullshit. that’s supposed to make things better ? it’s groupthink, collectivism and, ultimately, represents gatekeeping, plain and simple. who are you to say who is or isn’t persona non grata in a “scene” ? who put you in charge ? you claim that you will discuss things and take action, well, that’s often what happens here with regards to who is featured in videos. however, i’m not claiming to be in charge of anything, i’m not part of the “scene” and i’m not basing what’s left of my life on trying to squeeze money out of it or to push myself as some kind of authority on anything. the top tier of the uk retro community all need boiling, imo, and i’m not alone in this belief. people have started to get very sick of it all, and it’s about time.
someone else has now sent me the same image, mate. it’s a load of bollocks. there’s none of the stuff i’m accused of in my videos, and as for the comments, well, as graeme has said he runs a tight ship and we don’t really tolerate that kind of stuff. for racism, transphobia and antisemitism, some of my most outspoken supports number people who’re not white, not straight, jewish and transexual. these people love the fact they can come here and enjoy pure nonsense. anyone who doesn’t understand this is the racist, the anti-semite and the transphobe, imo. it’s just strawman bullshit because they can’t discuss the actual issue at hand as they’re blatantly in the wrong. pathetic, really.
I respectfully disagree with George’s opinion on Neil, yet I agree that George should have a platform upon which to put his opinions forward.
I don’t think Ravi is the problem. He’s just the symptom of a much bigger problem in the UK retro scene (and with social media as a whole). Those who make money from being online don’t want to get cancelled, and there are a small but extremely active number of people whose job it is to cancel people.
If you have nothing to lose, then you can say whatever the fuck you like. Which is why I keep coming back here. George obviously has nothing to lose, gives zero fucks, and ultimately makes the internet slightly less shit as a result. By giving him a platform, Geezer is making the internet slightly less shit too.
“Those who make money from being online don’t want to get cancelled” that’s my main problem with RMC, and the skulduggery that he’s been involved with in the past with relation to he and his despicable cronies interfering with other people that’s been quietly deleted/swept under the carpet. he and his cohorts have stitched up numerous people yet on the surface he’s a “harmless”, beaming twat to all who don’t threaten his bottom line. neither he nor the rest of his ilk would dare to actually say anything interesting, it’s just the same regurgitated piss that everyone else in their echelon hits out with. perhaps that’s all there is to them, but behind the facade of “everyone is welcome” is rigorous gatekeeping, cynicism and a lust to remain squeezing every last ounce of cash from their followers.
i think people have to be less afraid of “cancellation”. it’s a trend that’s going to end. it has to. above all, humans respect honesty and integrity. that speaks for itself, and no amount of tiptoeing around shit is going to stop it stinking of shit. it’s still there, but everyone pretends it isn’t. that’s no way to deal with it. point it out, get a shovel, get some sprays and liquids and get the thing cleaned up ! the retro community is full of shit, with the irony being that the shit is sentient and has told people that buckets and mops don’t exist any more.
yes that is true mate i don’t give a shit and thankfully here we can all say whatever we want which is why this site is very important and why i’m happy to put out information unfiltered. of course it’s often done through a haze of swearing and nonsense but that’s to entertain more than anything else. i find that if people are entertained then they’re engaged and therefore more likely to take facts onboard when they’re presented. i think it’s safe to say that those of us involved here are most definitely dedicated to making the internet less shit. if that means iconoclastic behaviour has to take place then so be it, in for a penny and all that.
he’s someone who chops and changes history to suit his bottom line, and conspires against others in secret discords etc. his public persona is “butter wouldn’t melt” but he’s full of shit. an absolute wraith of a man.
Ravi says it’s his podcast, but Dan Wood frequently says it’s his podcast on his YouTube channel.
Perhaps it’s Bitmap books’ podcast? Who knows.
Anyhoo. I’ve gone drinking with Ravi and he’s a sound guy, and a genuine Amiga nut. Of course, the evidence is there for all to see, but Im going with the view that Ravi is up to his neck trying to organise a massive uk Amiga event, the first one, under immense pressure from all angles, and he’s shot from the hip on this topic. He’s probably got it wrong. And whilst it’s a big deal for you Geezer, understandably so, to him the focus is going to be on making this first event a success, and for it to succeed it needs to have the activities and speakers advertised to go ahead and/or turn up. If, and I’m being hypothetical, some of the sponsors and or guest speakers said I’m not doing it because Geezer will be there, then he’s going to have to make a call and piss someone off. Like it or not, banning you is the lesser of 2 evils. Again, I’m making massive assumptions and have no evidence to say this is the case here.
I suspect Ravi’s hands are proverbially tied on some of the decisions, but because he’s the ‘face of the company’ or event in this case, he’s got to take the flack.
Geezer, I have no problem with you and I love what you’ve created here. I also disagree with you being punished for content on your platform – imagine suing Zuck because your neighbour called you a Cunt on Facebook. However, I think there’s a lot of stuff going on in the background, which we’re not privy to, and I bet some of which Ravi doesn’t even doesn’t agree with, but the bigger picture is about making this inaugural event a success.
there’s not anything going on in the background, and ravi agrees with everything that’s taken place. i’ve been sent a bunch of stuff from last night on his (?) discord where people were airing their grievances and he both doubled down and deleted posts. not the actions of someone who feels remorse or has any empathy for the person affected by his decision. Neil RMC also turned up and accused all present of being my sockpuppets. for those who understand my inability to use discord and the problems it’s caused me to even get ONE account sorted out, they’ll understand how fucking stupid this allegation is. the thing is, neil seems to think that anyone who has anything negative to say about him is me and he’s well known for narrative shaping so this is just another step in the “it’s all george, go into damage control mode” schtick that he exhibits every time the truth comes knocking at his door, or those of people he’s in cahoots with. they all close ranks and they all have their predictable pattern behaviours that they play out whenever anyone has anything factual to say against them. i was repulsed by the screen grabs i was sent. these people are fucking awful.
If I was organising my wedding day, with all of the crap that comes with it; transport, food, venue set-up, DJ, late drop outs etc. And a few days before the bride’s mother says “Mr Frot, I don’t want Jane’s husband coming to the wedding as he said I my face looked like a soiled handbag on Facebook”, I’d think to myself ‘FFS, I could do with out this bullshit, but fine, fuck it, I can’t have her pissed off, and I need it sorted quickly as I’ve got to pick the rings up, make sure the lads have got their suits fitted etc’.
So a quick call is made, Jane’s husband is fucking livid, but to be honest I haven’t got time to sort it all out. However, it turns out Jane’s husband was giving lifts to the event, and he’s also forked out for a hotel, and 10 or so of the other guests are pretty pissed off he won’t be going. They’re now lobbying me demanding that I explain myself. Which is fair enough, I’ve fucked up, but, I’m getting married in a few days and I’ve got to focus on that right now as that cannot become a shit show. “Sorry love, I haven’t got the rings because I spent 3 hours mediating between your mother and Jane’s husband rather than going to the jewellers”.
I’m giving Ravi the benefit of the doubt, but I may well be wrong and you are right. But that’s the great thing about this platform – we can all have different views and be free to air them. It would be shit if we were all in a vacuous echo chamber, akin to some of the discord groups mentioned on this post.
i will make a video about it shortly, most likely, or geezer will cover it, but that was NOT the mood on the kickstart discord last night, when multiple people asked ravi why he’d done what he’d done and why he’d lied and obfuscated the truth throughout. his answer was basically to double down on his original statements, to ban everyone questioning him, then to delete the entire chat. not really the actions of someone who “just got confused”
I’ve been involved in all sorts of scenes over the years and I can understand banning one trouble maker to make life easier. But that’s totally not this situation. Also people these days are so binary, so black and white in their views of people and it really annoys me, it’s either immaturity or something else. I was a Retro Hour patreon, I even was stupid enough to back their book. But if someone said I had to pick a side or either love the RH or hate the RH I’d tell them to sod off, it really is manipulation of people when you divide them into groups, labelling them etc..
agreed mate. life is grey not black and white. this situation is ridiculous, geezer is literally a lynchpin of the UK amiga scene, ravi’s behaviour here is despotic, self serving madness. he’s very much cut off his own nose to spite his face on this one.
The irony being they refused to cover the Intellivision Amico scandal as it unfolded because they said they didn’t want to get involved in drama and yet here we are.
Bert, you see, like a reasonable level headed person. Do you think the reaction by “Geezer” after being told not to attend is proportional and reasonable?
“Bert, you see, like a reasonable level headed person” are you going to finish that sentence or are you happy to once again represent yourself as a total arsehole ? i think geezer’s game downloads, the monetary support and the views here more than illustrate that people believe his response to be more than acceptable 🙂 not to mention the comments against ravi all over social media and elsewhere. so, “yes” should answer your question.
I think banning him was pathetic, all because the Retro Hour got criticism? You never learn anything from praise that’s for sure. As long as it is constructive criticism then it should be welcomed.
Seems to me like the power has gone to his head. Being able to decide who can attend or not. Clearly they have become used to everyone telling them the podcast is wonderful that they can’t deal with the criticism. But I think the fact so many youtube channels and podcasts are slapping adverts everywhere is a symptom of the cost of living problems at the moment. High inflation etc is always a very destabilising event. Seems like these youtubers like Ashens are desperate for money and are prepared to destroy their channels promoting CEX and other crappy places. I listened to an old Retro Hour episode recently where they were criticising CEX for including reproduction manuals in old retro games, and now Ashens, one of their friends is promoting them. What a joke.
Ravi Abbott has never, ever taken criticism well. He’s a narcissist and he’s been given the chance to “take the football with him” if anybody does not play the game the way he wants.
Every imbecile who bought a ticket to this shambles of an event is to blame for making this buffoon get as high on his horse as he is.
this is also very true regarding the enabling of twats like this. in all honesty this is pretty much my first actual dealing WITH ravi and it’s as pathetic as i could have expected. all the usual tactics being deployed, right up to the obvious and failed attempts to control and shape the narrative until the point where he just deleted a massive chunk of his discord “because reasons” (the reasons being that the truth makes him look like a fucking arsehole). now we have a small group of prawns turned loose here, using VPN’s to post spurious nonsense that has zero basis in fact and, once again, eschews actually addressing the reasonably criticism in favour of ad hominem bs. you could literally script this crap. every time it’s the same. these people are nothing if not utterly predictable.
I’d never heard of “Geezer Games” before this storm in a teacup, you come across as a naive, bullying, self important fool that has way too much time on their hands orchestrating personal grudge campaigns.
“I’m providing a YouTube platform” – By freely admitting you provide this platform you’re effectively behaving as a publisher. YouTube ban people because they know that they’re responsible as the publisher to remove defamatory etc. content. Your idea of “free speech” does not exist.
There are a couple of little things called the Malicious Communication Act 1988 and the Communications Act 2003
This covers things like “Online threats” and “Virtual mobbing” – both of which you’re freely admitting and guilty of.
“Amiga circle jerk” – this childish comment did amuse me, but only further cements to me your adolescence maturity.
“Guilty by association with George” well you would be as you then say “I support George”. It shows your level of character to support a such a spiteful turd of a human being.
As for the Retro Hour book – You seem to have a very confused idea of what a scam is. Putting out a product that clearly says what you’re getting, then actually getting for the agreed money you pay isn’t a scam. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. As for recycled content – that’s pretty rich from the guy that made an unoriginal copy of an old game then asked a ridiculous price for it. (Physical things cost a lot to produce right?)
“Dave Pleasance is a grifter” – almost amusing, but I’m sure he’s been called far worse in his time by far more respectable people than you.
“I tell you what I’m going to make a point of promoting Chris Wilkins Zzap event” – good for you, I expect it’ll be a great event. Not that he needs your help, I’ve no idea what point you’re trying to make by this?
Then come the threats – “I’m going to get to every single Amiga group” around the country…”when I bump into youse…and I will do I’m going to give you a real fucking piece of my mind because I tell you what, you’re a bunch of fucking arseholes. That’s all I want to say about it, I’m getting too fucking angry”.
Sounds like Rav made the right choice not to want someone that comes across like you there. Check the ticket of any event you’ve bought – the event managers have the right to refuse entry without refund.
As it happens I’m going to Zzap too, I’ll be sure to tell you what I think of you in no uncertain terms. What goes around comes around chump!
“a naive, bullying, self important fool”
interesting, as that’s exactly what we believe everyone in the amiga circle jerk to be. graeme is none of the things you accuse him of, and your asshurt and willingness to defend the indefensible cancers of the “community” speaks volumes, pal. As for physical things costing a lot to produce, well, physical or not – a game takes a LONG time to make, be it a remake done from the ground up OR an original (graeme has done both). however, a bunch of edited youtube transcripts put into a book, meh, could be done in an afternoon. it’s zero effort. the analogy doesn’t stand up. as for threats, i don’t see any threats made. saying you’re going to make people aware of certain behaviour, and also stating you’re going to address the matter in person does not amount to a threat. there is no implication of threat here whatsoever. when private eye report on the skulduggery in higher echelons of british society, is that “threatening” ? of course it isn’t. don’t be so stupid. sticks and stones and all that. calm down and buy some balm for your asshurt. the first thing that usually happens when genuine, true facts are presented online is an attempt by those affected to shut them down. that’s not going to happen here. “Rav”, a personal friend, then ? nice of him to send over his friends to engage in “virtual mobbing”. honestly, the lexicon of cuntery that you prawns pull from is beyond pathetic. grow up and accept the mantle you’ve all chosen to wear. vampires, gatekeepers and charlatans, one and all !
“As it happens I’m going to Zzap too, I’ll be sure to tell you what I think of you in no uncertain terms. What goes around comes around chump!”
by your token, that’s an online threat. moron.
I think you missed the point about you being the host of this content?
i think you missed the point about everything, you absolutely rubbish individual. go away and learn english then come back to make even more of a fool of yourself, you complete berk.
“your adolesence maturity”
still giving me a chuckle, that. it’s beyond stupid and it’s even better that you think deploying such gobbledegook actually puts you on a higher intellectual level than others here. it’s like trying to feed people shit and expecting them to believe it’s pizza. you’re a numbskull and a fart !
“I’d never heard of “Geezer Games” before this storm in a teacup”
so, just like your bumchums, you know fuck all about the modern amiga community. why does that not surprise me ?
Wow, are you pair of comedians still at it?
Am I meant to be offended of being accused of not knowing much about the Amiga community? Could it be your over inflated sense of self importance makes it seem inconceivable someone isn’t in what you’re peddling? Either way, I have many hobbies and not one unhealthy obsession.
What’s with all the “butt hurt”? Is that some kind of weird Geordie activity you get up to oop north? Or are we adding homophobic hate speech to the list?
“your adolescence maturity”
come again ? :p
I apologise for using words longer than four letters that aren’t expletives – that must make it terribly challenging for a person of such limited vocabulary.
I pity you for whatever life experience turned you into this spiteful bag of piss and bile, or maybe you’re just trying to be like a poor man’s Jonathan’s pie?
it wasn’t the words i took umbrage with, it was the completely moronic manner in which they were thrown together. “your adolescence maturity” doesn’t mean anything, if you’re going to pretend to be intelligent, try not to write like you’ve had a fucking lobotomy, you absolute fool. that’s the thing with tits like you, you genuinely think you’re special. you are, i suppose, but as in “special bus”, nothing more. you’re a prize wanker and have proved this time and time again with your moronic, unintelligent ramblings. you’re a prawn !
You wont do fuck all at Zzap if you’re such the tough guy you’re pretending to be you wouldn’t be hiding behind pseudonyms like you are here. Now fuck off back down into the pit you crawled out of Abaddon(jaysus you’re so scary).
pseudonyms AND a vpn no less :p
ExpressVPN? one of the RH sponsors no less 🙂
I use a pseudonym cause I love childish humour like “circle jerk”!
you can love that without using a pseudonym :-p are you also using a vpn ? :p
Hypocrite.
yes, without a doubt
You’ll find the grown MEN who go to Zzap are are quite different to the usual limp wristed wankers that turn up to the events you are used to going to mate. It will be a different crowd, so just be careful.
Dude, you’re really funny. Give me another one!
Zzap attendees 😂🤣
I wasn’t particularly looking forward to it, but I am now to see what grown men look like.
“dude” lol. time for you to go, “bro”
So you’re defiantly going which is great news, I’ll be looking forward to meeting you so you can tell me things too. Oh btw what color of nail varnish are you going to wear for the event?
Why am I not shocked about all of this going down?
It’s almost like if they want to corner the Amiga community off, which is what David Pleasance was doing with that shit AGA 2023.
If Ravi wants to shit in his own nappy, then so be it. At the end of the day, you do a lot more within the community than he could ever do, and you get the respect for it.
Keep the good work up and don’t let any of these bastards get you down.
well said mate ! geezer has more amiga in his pinky than the retro hour can muster between the lot of them ! watch out this weekend for some great content here to run in tandem with kickstart 1, along with an amazing awards ceremony !
They didn’t get their Amigas until the 90s. I wanted an Amiga from the second I saw one, probably 86 or so. I got my A500 in 1987, still remember that day well. Seeing a demo of some photos on an A1000 and then they loaded up Starglider and I heard that little loading tune sample.
That’s a ridiculouss point of view. When they got Amigas does not matter and just makes you sound like an elitist twat just like them.
What matters is that these people are devoid of any talent whatsoever, yet are lauded by a bunch of even worse ghouls about their alleged “accolades”. All they do is sit around and create their whole “persona” around other people’s achievements, while thousands of people that are even more passive than that, people that are so, so beyond pathetic that they cannot even fire up a game to play and instead choose to sit down and watch an idiot on Twitch playing it for them, go around defending them, bigging them up, and generating this CIRCLEJERK that benefits no one but their own dopamine receptors.
As much as these people are beyond awful, everyone that supports them is the reason why they exist. They’re far worse.
i do agree on the supporters thing. it’s like when the top hat/lady dickhead (grotbags) stuff kicked off. people clamoured for “evidence” etc of their wrongdoings. i posted it in spades, with confirmed provenance, yet they still continued to support their false idols. it’s utterly bizarre. when presented with fact, people would rather believe lies. there’s nothing bad about admitting you’ve been led up the garden path, it happens to everyone, but in these days of personal echo chambers and bizarre online allegiances i suppose these people are just too “diehard” to admit they’ve been mugged off. i see no other reason as to why anyone would support any of these useless, braindead scumbags. also, full marks for deploying the word “ghoul”, it’s a personal favourite.
Yeah sorry, I did think that after writing. However I was only really pointing out that out in terms of experience and history. If you do a podcast about retro things then it sometimes can be an advantage to have been there. Of course LGR is quite a bit younger and covers all stuff, but then he tends to do his research better.
Mate you can educate yourself no matter your age or how long you’ve been interested in the subject matter. The fact that these people don’t know shit just speaks of their levels of willful ignorance. And it doesn’t matter, because hordes of even more idiotic cumgoblins are constantly giving them kudos about whatever shit they say they know about or activity they partake in.
As long as you can find the correct accurate information. Even the magazines of the day can be biased and full of it. One thing is for sure, avoid Wikipedia.
I bet if Ravi had a real job he’d be the type of employee that’d keep HR busy.
25K for a book featuring transcripts from their old podcasts, was indeed an absolute sham.
Neil from RMC having Jane Whittaker as a guest, blocking comments highlighting how Jane has constantly lied to the community, sealed his fate.
Having Donald Pleasance as a guest, after he’s been caught trying to scam the community.
So glad I got out of the Retro scene, just when you think it can’t sink any lower, it does..
the book was/is a fucking joke. neil is a plonk and a shill of the highest order. donald pleasance is a grifting windbag.
they’re all AT IT mate 100% and the more bubbles i can burst before i can no longer lift a pin, the better !
People have gotten to used to sites like Facebook, Youtube etc controlling people’s freedom of speech that they’re emulating it now. If you start picking and choosing who can come to your events it won’t last long.
There’s loads of people at events who if you sat them down for a debate on things would disagree and argue. Also, this Kickstart event is not the Retro Hour. Why do the two things have to be linked just because one person is involved in both?
Thanks for the video Graeme and clearing up your association with George, I be honest that I wasn’t even aware of him in the last month but can now see what type of character he is and although his contact is ‘funny’ it reminds me of Spitting Image back in the 90s when those who got impersonated didn’t like it. I get that and those here who are more public then others will be targetted. Now with regards u exhibiting I did put down on the Usergroup spread sheet that we could have a table of ‘New games’ as we had spare tables, we are doing a demo of Nivrig game, so I was thinking along those lines and I was about to talk to u about it as u said u was going (in our group chat) but then Ravi spoke to me and said well he doesn’t want to exhibit your games and I asked him why and it was because of the remarks from the videos to him, dan, rmc and others. So, sadly thats how that happened. However that said will be working with Zzap next month, sorting out SWAG’s plan and speaking of which if SWAG had a problem with an individual then we would have a group chat about it, we would try and discuss the problem and then take action as a group and not by one individual, at present I see no issue with you visiting and getting involved with any future meets as we grow, you clearing up your involvement with this website helped.
okay, so now that there’s backlash and it’s looking like the situation hasn’t gone in ravi’s favour it’s all backpedaling ? how typical. also, people being “targeted” has zero to do with their profile or visibility in the “scene”, it’s to do with them being arseholes, plain and simple. while my content is intended to be tongue in cheek i’m not lampooning people for zero reason, i’m merely spotlighting when someone has done something reprehensible like, for example, david pleasance and his plan to fleece the amiga community for something they already have and don’t need to pay for. however, clearly you feel different as he’s a guest of honour at the upcoming event. bad move. this doesn’t sit right with me, or a lot of people in the amiga community. while i respect the fact you’ve come to post here, i find the post to be contrived and feel that it’s been deployed simply for damage control/limitation at this point. where’s ravi’s apology ? a lot of people are very irritated by how graeme has been treated here, and until ravi addresses it without lying about it (as he has been doing) or deleting posts featuring the truth (as he has been doing) then they’ll continue to feel that way. all this “we’ll have a group chat and take action as a group” is just bullshit. that’s supposed to make things better ? it’s groupthink, collectivism and, ultimately, represents gatekeeping, plain and simple. who are you to say who is or isn’t persona non grata in a “scene” ? who put you in charge ? you claim that you will discuss things and take action, well, that’s often what happens here with regards to who is featured in videos. however, i’m not claiming to be in charge of anything, i’m not part of the “scene” and i’m not basing what’s left of my life on trying to squeeze money out of it or to push myself as some kind of authority on anything. the top tier of the uk retro community all need boiling, imo, and i’m not alone in this belief. people have started to get very sick of it all, and it’s about time.
oh look it’s Dave R, the R is for “RMC lackey”
can’t actually see this at all mate can you repost at a better resolution ? thanks !
I can’t find a way to contact you other than this, the image was large, WordPress seems to have squashed it:
someone else has now sent me the same image, mate. it’s a load of bollocks. there’s none of the stuff i’m accused of in my videos, and as for the comments, well, as graeme has said he runs a tight ship and we don’t really tolerate that kind of stuff. for racism, transphobia and antisemitism, some of my most outspoken supports number people who’re not white, not straight, jewish and transexual. these people love the fact they can come here and enjoy pure nonsense. anyone who doesn’t understand this is the racist, the anti-semite and the transphobe, imo. it’s just strawman bullshit because they can’t discuss the actual issue at hand as they’re blatantly in the wrong. pathetic, really.
I respectfully disagree with George’s opinion on Neil, yet I agree that George should have a platform upon which to put his opinions forward.
I don’t think Ravi is the problem. He’s just the symptom of a much bigger problem in the UK retro scene (and with social media as a whole). Those who make money from being online don’t want to get cancelled, and there are a small but extremely active number of people whose job it is to cancel people.
If you have nothing to lose, then you can say whatever the fuck you like. Which is why I keep coming back here. George obviously has nothing to lose, gives zero fucks, and ultimately makes the internet slightly less shit as a result. By giving him a platform, Geezer is making the internet slightly less shit too.
Thank you for your service, gents.
“Those who make money from being online don’t want to get cancelled” that’s my main problem with RMC, and the skulduggery that he’s been involved with in the past with relation to he and his despicable cronies interfering with other people that’s been quietly deleted/swept under the carpet. he and his cohorts have stitched up numerous people yet on the surface he’s a “harmless”, beaming twat to all who don’t threaten his bottom line. neither he nor the rest of his ilk would dare to actually say anything interesting, it’s just the same regurgitated piss that everyone else in their echelon hits out with. perhaps that’s all there is to them, but behind the facade of “everyone is welcome” is rigorous gatekeeping, cynicism and a lust to remain squeezing every last ounce of cash from their followers.
i think people have to be less afraid of “cancellation”. it’s a trend that’s going to end. it has to. above all, humans respect honesty and integrity. that speaks for itself, and no amount of tiptoeing around shit is going to stop it stinking of shit. it’s still there, but everyone pretends it isn’t. that’s no way to deal with it. point it out, get a shovel, get some sprays and liquids and get the thing cleaned up ! the retro community is full of shit, with the irony being that the shit is sentient and has told people that buckets and mops don’t exist any more.
yes that is true mate i don’t give a shit and thankfully here we can all say whatever we want which is why this site is very important and why i’m happy to put out information unfiltered. of course it’s often done through a haze of swearing and nonsense but that’s to entertain more than anything else. i find that if people are entertained then they’re engaged and therefore more likely to take facts onboard when they’re presented. i think it’s safe to say that those of us involved here are most definitely dedicated to making the internet less shit. if that means iconoclastic behaviour has to take place then so be it, in for a penny and all that.
I don’t mind Neil either and accept that’s an unpopular opinion around here.
I do think he’s treading a fine line though…
he’s someone who chops and changes history to suit his bottom line, and conspires against others in secret discords etc. his public persona is “butter wouldn’t melt” but he’s full of shit. an absolute wraith of a man.
That describes so many people I’ve worked with. I must be immune to it, embarrassingly.
Ravi says it’s his podcast, but Dan Wood frequently says it’s his podcast on his YouTube channel.
Perhaps it’s Bitmap books’ podcast? Who knows.
Anyhoo. I’ve gone drinking with Ravi and he’s a sound guy, and a genuine Amiga nut. Of course, the evidence is there for all to see, but Im going with the view that Ravi is up to his neck trying to organise a massive uk Amiga event, the first one, under immense pressure from all angles, and he’s shot from the hip on this topic. He’s probably got it wrong. And whilst it’s a big deal for you Geezer, understandably so, to him the focus is going to be on making this first event a success, and for it to succeed it needs to have the activities and speakers advertised to go ahead and/or turn up. If, and I’m being hypothetical, some of the sponsors and or guest speakers said I’m not doing it because Geezer will be there, then he’s going to have to make a call and piss someone off. Like it or not, banning you is the lesser of 2 evils. Again, I’m making massive assumptions and have no evidence to say this is the case here.
I suspect Ravi’s hands are proverbially tied on some of the decisions, but because he’s the ‘face of the company’ or event in this case, he’s got to take the flack.
Geezer, I have no problem with you and I love what you’ve created here. I also disagree with you being punished for content on your platform – imagine suing Zuck because your neighbour called you a Cunt on Facebook. However, I think there’s a lot of stuff going on in the background, which we’re not privy to, and I bet some of which Ravi doesn’t even doesn’t agree with, but the bigger picture is about making this inaugural event a success.
there’s not anything going on in the background, and ravi agrees with everything that’s taken place. i’ve been sent a bunch of stuff from last night on his (?) discord where people were airing their grievances and he both doubled down and deleted posts. not the actions of someone who feels remorse or has any empathy for the person affected by his decision. Neil RMC also turned up and accused all present of being my sockpuppets. for those who understand my inability to use discord and the problems it’s caused me to even get ONE account sorted out, they’ll understand how fucking stupid this allegation is. the thing is, neil seems to think that anyone who has anything negative to say about him is me and he’s well known for narrative shaping so this is just another step in the “it’s all george, go into damage control mode” schtick that he exhibits every time the truth comes knocking at his door, or those of people he’s in cahoots with. they all close ranks and they all have their predictable pattern behaviours that they play out whenever anyone has anything factual to say against them. i was repulsed by the screen grabs i was sent. these people are fucking awful.
If I was organising my wedding day, with all of the crap that comes with it; transport, food, venue set-up, DJ, late drop outs etc. And a few days before the bride’s mother says “Mr Frot, I don’t want Jane’s husband coming to the wedding as he said I my face looked like a soiled handbag on Facebook”, I’d think to myself ‘FFS, I could do with out this bullshit, but fine, fuck it, I can’t have her pissed off, and I need it sorted quickly as I’ve got to pick the rings up, make sure the lads have got their suits fitted etc’.
So a quick call is made, Jane’s husband is fucking livid, but to be honest I haven’t got time to sort it all out. However, it turns out Jane’s husband was giving lifts to the event, and he’s also forked out for a hotel, and 10 or so of the other guests are pretty pissed off he won’t be going. They’re now lobbying me demanding that I explain myself. Which is fair enough, I’ve fucked up, but, I’m getting married in a few days and I’ve got to focus on that right now as that cannot become a shit show. “Sorry love, I haven’t got the rings because I spent 3 hours mediating between your mother and Jane’s husband rather than going to the jewellers”.
I’m giving Ravi the benefit of the doubt, but I may well be wrong and you are right. But that’s the great thing about this platform – we can all have different views and be free to air them. It would be shit if we were all in a vacuous echo chamber, akin to some of the discord groups mentioned on this post.
i will make a video about it shortly, most likely, or geezer will cover it, but that was NOT the mood on the kickstart discord last night, when multiple people asked ravi why he’d done what he’d done and why he’d lied and obfuscated the truth throughout. his answer was basically to double down on his original statements, to ban everyone questioning him, then to delete the entire chat. not really the actions of someone who “just got confused”
Fair enough mate. I look forward to seeing it when it goes up
I’ve been involved in all sorts of scenes over the years and I can understand banning one trouble maker to make life easier. But that’s totally not this situation. Also people these days are so binary, so black and white in their views of people and it really annoys me, it’s either immaturity or something else. I was a Retro Hour patreon, I even was stupid enough to back their book. But if someone said I had to pick a side or either love the RH or hate the RH I’d tell them to sod off, it really is manipulation of people when you divide them into groups, labelling them etc..
agreed mate. life is grey not black and white. this situation is ridiculous, geezer is literally a lynchpin of the UK amiga scene, ravi’s behaviour here is despotic, self serving madness. he’s very much cut off his own nose to spite his face on this one.
The irony being they refused to cover the Intellivision Amico scandal as it unfolded because they said they didn’t want to get involved in drama and yet here we are.
the potential to cover drama is outweighed by the potential to receive free stuff. arseholes.
Bert, you see, like a reasonable level headed person. Do you think the reaction by “Geezer” after being told not to attend is proportional and reasonable?
“Bert, you see, like a reasonable level headed person” are you going to finish that sentence or are you happy to once again represent yourself as a total arsehole ? i think geezer’s game downloads, the monetary support and the views here more than illustrate that people believe his response to be more than acceptable 🙂 not to mention the comments against ravi all over social media and elsewhere. so, “yes” should answer your question.
I think banning him was pathetic, all because the Retro Hour got criticism? You never learn anything from praise that’s for sure. As long as it is constructive criticism then it should be welcomed.
Seems to me like the power has gone to his head. Being able to decide who can attend or not. Clearly they have become used to everyone telling them the podcast is wonderful that they can’t deal with the criticism. But I think the fact so many youtube channels and podcasts are slapping adverts everywhere is a symptom of the cost of living problems at the moment. High inflation etc is always a very destabilising event. Seems like these youtubers like Ashens are desperate for money and are prepared to destroy their channels promoting CEX and other crappy places. I listened to an old Retro Hour episode recently where they were criticising CEX for including reproduction manuals in old retro games, and now Ashens, one of their friends is promoting them. What a joke.
Ravi Abbott has never, ever taken criticism well. He’s a narcissist and he’s been given the chance to “take the football with him” if anybody does not play the game the way he wants.
Every imbecile who bought a ticket to this shambles of an event is to blame for making this buffoon get as high on his horse as he is.
this is also very true regarding the enabling of twats like this. in all honesty this is pretty much my first actual dealing WITH ravi and it’s as pathetic as i could have expected. all the usual tactics being deployed, right up to the obvious and failed attempts to control and shape the narrative until the point where he just deleted a massive chunk of his discord “because reasons” (the reasons being that the truth makes him look like a fucking arsehole). now we have a small group of prawns turned loose here, using VPN’s to post spurious nonsense that has zero basis in fact and, once again, eschews actually addressing the reasonably criticism in favour of ad hominem bs. you could literally script this crap. every time it’s the same. these people are nothing if not utterly predictable.