no mate there was no mention of it and i doubt they will have it either ! pinball is costly to source and maintain. no one has fully working pinballs just sitting around doing nothing these days !
Yep, I looked into buying one about 6 years ago. There’s a lot to go wrong, the youtube channel Joes Classic Video Games showed me all the repairs needed. You can of course go down the virtual route but then anyone can get one of those at home.
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Tapewormz
1 year ago
I believe they won’t last a year. They won’t be able to maintain these machines once they start to break down (which will be frequently). They probably achieved their goal with a few shill accounts since it was an all or nothing campaign.
watch the dazz strikes back video mate i cover what happened with the “sponsors” of the campaign, who dazz himself admitted had pushed them over the finish line
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Stevie Aaron
1 year ago
What is this “amazing vegan food” angle supposed to even be? If the idea is to aim this thing at retro gamers, or gamers in general, vegan food is the last thing on their minds. Have you seen the state or most of them? They don’t give a shit about their diets! This is just more hipster bollocks for the sake of it. Bust out the 13cm tall cheese burgers and cater to your intended audience ffs.
True. Most retrogamers are fatties that enjoy their dead animals and grease. You can tell Pete isn’t a real retrogamer because he pays way too much attention to his appearance.
indeed mate, it is very much hipster bollocks BUT it’s deluded hipster bollocks as hipsters don’t want to play frogger and other “well known” titles they’ll want pachinko machines and ddr for that touch of post modern irony. this is a fail on all sides created by people severely labouring under the weight of their own self importance.
i tried a vegan sausage a few months ago. it was horrible. tasted like watered down marmite. shit !
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Frot hat
1 year ago
The bank manger must have pissed himself laughing when they presented their ‘business plan’
“Hey Susan, guess what those two just asked for….you’ll never get it so I’ll tell you.
A ‘YouTuber’ who has no experience in retail, and a lady with a debt heavy snakes and ladders shop want to borrow a load of money… guess what for!?? They want to open a bar down stabby-stabby-willy-out street, rent out a few electricity guzzling arcade machines and change people for them, AND they want to have serve expensive Vegan food.
… I know right! Not only that, but there’s an established business down the road which charges a single fee to play ALL the machines, and the snakes and ladders shop the lady owns, is also a vegan food place….. I know! It’s a niche market in a pissy area AND they want to make it more niche by cannibalising their other business!! And get this…. They want to do this during a cost of living crisis where we have high energy costs and the cost of borrowing is the highest it’s been in 15 years!!! …so I told them to F off and start begging”
To be fair, “Shots and Slots” would be a good name for a bar in that part of Norwich, though some of the punters walking through the door might be disappointed when they find that the titular slots are not what the kinds of slots they were expecting.
LOUIE and yes it’s the usual push me – pull you bollocks “i thought long and hard about leaving youtube and decided to do fuck all and make another video about my struggles so i can continue to define myself with them” change the record and go away you numbskull !
Octavius would probably make more money if she left YouTube and went to OnlyFans. She wouldn’t even have to nude up. I’m sure she still has plenty of simps thirsty enough to spend 50 quid on a jar of her bath water or whatever.
the hokey cokey that many of these wankers take part in is just that, a childish dance only performed by fucking idiots with zero self awareness in adulthood. if all of these wankers who keep threatening to fuck off WOULD actually fuck off then youtube would be a better place.
LOUIE needs to step away from YouTube, twitter, the lot. He/they/whatever is clearly extremely mentally disturbed or at least, struggles very much with the pressures of being a creative persona online. Louie needs to embark on some self care immediately.
it’s been said multiple times mate as stated i said this YEARS ago and it’s just gotten worse since then. the behaviour has gotten more and more scatterbrained, the output less and less frequent, the “honest and upfront” videos more regular to the point where the only thing it can be associated with now is whining and self pity. as for the notion that it wants to start a help channel for people with mental issues, how about “FUCK OFF” ?
My name is Lilly ? Not Sarah. I am sure this video will be saved and looked it in detail by many people. Hopfully she gets the support she needs, I am still not sure she should be making videos. However thats not my call. Hopefully she finishes the book that people have paid for
Er ok whatever makes them happy. Just looked at Twitter and the bio now reads “Louis he/they box of frog”
For the record life is hard and sometimes far to short so call yourself whatever makes you happy. Looks like they have had the sense to stay clear of this bar mess
I have more than enough experience with anxiety to know that the first thing a CBT approach calls for is to face it. I was ignoring it for about a year then had to take a few months off work to get the help I needed as it physically made me ill.
If you drop your head in the sand like octavious has you will fucking fester away, as much as I pity what she’s going through at this point she’s doing it to herself as the easy option.
Facing it and using your own brains logic centres and making new pathways to stop the panic cycle is the only fucking way to do it.
Why define yourself like this, fuck living as your own victim.
i said this years ago when i made my horacegate videos mate i have suffered with and struggle with depression myself and with good reason but do i let it be my persona ? do i constantly mine for sympathy and use it to define me ? do i fuck ! no-one wants to hear about that and i don’t want to double down on it. what she’s doing is futile in the extreme.
Her books going to be bleaker than being stuck on a bus with 52 Jewish kids watching Schindler’s list on one of those old 14 inch CRTs stuck on a bus ceiling surrounded by fibreglass and cheap carpet while breaking down in the middle of a mains gas leak.
She needs to get out more and stop with all the victim shit, what the fucks wrong with writing a book about feeling happy.
indeed mate. ultimately the “victim shit” is what defines her, and it’s what she’s continually harping on and on about. she’s a fucking grifting idiot with zero self respect who’s allowed herself to be reduced to a pity totem that people periodically throw coins at. it’s pathetic, but it’s her “living”
Seems to me the worst thing you can do is revisit games and other creative works which take you back to a particular troubling time in your life. There’s songs I can’t really play because they remind me of a very bad relationship I had. So to regress back to times of much worse and then wonder why you’re relapsing?
yes mate i completely agree i am quite affected by some pieces of music in that way i haven’t ever had a relationship but i have had some dark times and it’s funny how these feelings can stick like limpets to pieces of popular culture that then have the power to bring it all back if deployed ! i’ve said it before, i have no fucking idea why she’s doing this to herself save for the obvious answer of it providing the pity pounds :/
Jesus wept. How many personas can one person have… It’s Louis .. no Sarah… No Octy… Oh wait she’s just a fictitious character, or is she? Fuck sake. She’s clearly disturbed. And she’s studying to be what… a psychologist. Fuck sake…. Five minutes with her and anyone sane would be jumping out the window. It would be like having the Joker and Harlequin as your psychologist. You’d come out more fucked up than you did before you went in.
it’s the age old nonsense of “physician, heal thyself”. presumably she thinks that by studying and working in that field she can somehow unpick the self inflicted fuckery that is her current outlook on the world. it’s nonsense, she needs professional help not a college course in how to shit in other people’s brains, too !
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Food for financial thought
1 year ago
If the “last big backer” ensures they use a credit card that will bounce (one of those onetime disposable numbers, for example) the campaign will still succeed but there will be no need to pay back the person who made the pledge, and no 10% tax taken by Kickstarter- meaning it would be *free* to rig the completion…
Well its been funded, now time to watch this train wreak over the coming months. My money is on it being closed by winter. Some of the KS comments I cant even tell if they are trolling are just deluded
“Thank you so much for your efforts to recreate the magic of the arcade days, I can’t wait to play games, eat awesome vegan food, meet fellow gamers and finally have a place to just nerd out!
I think this will be a fun and popular place in time, and a real step towards bringing some fresh new life to Prince of Wales St (which it desperately needs, IMO!)
Best of luck, I’ll be there as soon as the doors open! :D”
They’ll go once, see the food is £18 for a burger and never bother again.
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James P
1 year ago
I wonder if Peter has pushed things too far with this. Yes it has been “funded” with some real backer money. However a lot a people are very angry at this one, he might have just poisoned the well him him and all those who are involved in the secret club they clearly all in. This business does not need to exit, Slice and Dice is close by as is another arcade place. That is more than most towns / cities in the UK will ever have. I have been in this hobby for a very long time and have seen people come and people go but this is bad. Ashens was on twitch last night doing some watch party of some shitty film over 500 watching, one 30 second plug from him could have sent a lot of them to the KS but no nothing. Like others have said if they community really wanted this it would have been funded in hours and gone way over target. The comments on the KS are a right mess one of the worst I have seen for an active project. I have spoken with a few people who have backed, just so they can get access to the discord to watch this mess unfold to them £10-£20 is worth it just for the laughs. Anyone who read news knows how bad things are right now with the price of everything rocketing Like George said vegans are not on the bread line worrying about how much money they have for food this week. Peter and Co are clearly in some bubble where the economy is going great and people have a lot of disposable income for £18 burgers at lunch. If I was local Slice and Dice does look like the kind of place I would stop for a coffee however that would be once in a blue moon / on a holiday. However it also feels like the kind of place I would get a lecture about my leather shoes along with my coffee
i believe they have indeed pushed things too far with this mate. it’s clearly an outright grift and it was obvious from the start, now this “mystery benefactor” drops almost 5k for NO REWARD on the kickstarter ? it’s clearly bollocks and clearly them dropping what they have to so that they can scoop up the rest. I personally think it’s there to pull another business out of dire straits, but that’s just supposition on my part and nothing to do with the fact that their companies house filings are showing a business that’s clearly labouring under the weight of it’s own “right on” self importance and financial ineptitude. but, still, that’s just a supposition. ashens will do nothing more in my opinion. all of this lot are so aloof and entitled and this has definitely gone sour no matter how one looks at it so expect everyone to start saying as ashens already has “oh that’s peter and sam’s thing” and distancing themselves from it whilst never outright saying “yes, that was a fucking scandalous deception and a grift of the highest order”.
I am glad that I am not the only one who is angry at this. I am not even sure how much of a Peter thing this is. Yes he might be vegan and like arcades but running a business like this takes a lot of work. To me it smells of upper middle class “liberal guilt” Like I keep saying the Slice and Dice business is clearly way more involved than they are letting on. Its clearly not an arcade at happens to sell vegan food. Its a vegan pub that has a few arcade machines that will only be turned on at times will have the machines on. The place looks massive so god knows how many staff they will need and how much they will need to turnover just to keep the lights on. I cant see Peter running food out to tables or pulling pints.
as per usual it’s about controlling their image and at the moment barcadia isn’t lensing well so it’s much better for him to be out of the equation. as he said when previously quizzed on it “that’s peter and sam’s thing” so really nothing to do with him at all, or at least not when the hard questions are being asked.
Says a lot that Ashens’ most popular YouTube videos are all a decade or more old, and he rarely uploads anything there these days (the few he does produce are retreads of old topics). The TV career he seemed to long for never happened either.
like most of these people, i think ashens is off the boil and new blood has come through. they were “of an era” and now that era is over, it’s the same with all entertainment media – nothing lasts forever and nothing is valid forever. apart from Roger Cook, of course.
They will open, get the summer trade which will create an illusion of success and then be in with a huge shock once the weather goes downhill.
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Kingrock
1 year ago
I pretty much knew NN’s character years ago, I haven’t watched his videos for years, but his earlier content seemed to say how often as a kid (we’re the same age, 40) he’d go through a new system (even if second hand) merely months between them, taking his words as gospel, that he got /this/ system and /that/ console in xxxx year, means he must have been a spoiled as a kid; and it’s that background that shows through in many of these YouTubers.
Last, always, always, be wary of someone who has to point out their virtues in life. I learned that very early in life when I saw all these so-called Christians at the church my mom took me to, pointing out their do-gooding for all to see and hear; when behind closed doors they were shagging around, committing fraud, evading tax, talking ill of people with less wealth, making homophobic and racist attacks and more…needless to say, I’m not religious as an adult. The fact that so many of these YT folks spend more time pointing out their virtues says more about them than anything else.
i agree mate it’s always pointing out their virtues and also the shameless begging in a really passive aggressive manner “give us your money for nothing ! oh but no seriously you can give us it for love, you know, but if you want to give us it for nothing then we’ll love you for ever and ever” some pathetic comment like that said in a 1/2 joking (but not really joking) manner is a tactic that’s been deployed by nigh on all of them. insufferable, two faced jerks who don’t actually seem to enjoy gaming whatsoever and have just fallen into a rut of “well the fans pay me to do this so i might as well go for another scrape of the bottom of the barrel, hm, what will i do today ? ah okay yes, how about the top ten facts about the snes that everyone knows ? that will do it. hm, will have to find someone else to write it, too”. i’ve no idea about nostalgia nerd’s background but that level of insufferable doesn’t come from nowhere, it’s been encouraged. whether that be by family or fans, who knows, but he’s an unwatchable and entitled oik.
For me, it was the “so. Get. Involved. ” in the kickstarter that made me gag. Firstly, backer “involvement” is little more than being a silent contributor to someone else’s project, in exchange for practically fuck-all. And the presumptuousness of expecting everyone to come flocking to help because theyre “celebrities”.
The relative silence of the other usual suspects on the scene speaks volumes. They’ve barely said a positive nor critical thing about it, strange when they’ve been all too happy to wade into a controversy to get their two cents in. Kim Justice and Quang’s last-moment involvement feels to me like it was precipitated by a bit of begging on Peters part. Trista Bytes doesn’t appear to have touched it with a ten foot gaming chair either. Usually they all come out to cheer on their pals. But not this time. I think mostly they know that recent grifts, lies, and scams have made many people skeptical and they’re keeping away in case they look complicit. Barcadia represents a sea change in the UK retro gaming scene, which I believe will culminate in the evaporation of the “celebrity” status of the likes of NN, Octav1us, Slopes, THGM et al. And about time too.
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KevinChampion
1 year ago
I got to say this news is vile and disgusting on all levels. The pub is a grade II and while many of you nerds may think so wot? This is a prized piece of local Norwich architecture. If it cant be restored to a pub then it should remain closed. Its not fit for a pub, which is a british insitution historically to be turned into an arcade. Its a fucking disgrace that video games should have any place in a historical pub. It would be like turning the Albert Hall into a brothel. As for you nerds half of you here live with your parents and dont go out, so why on earth the Nerd thinks he will have customers is anyones guess.
That’s probably why it has stood empty for 5 years. I wonder if they’ve got some sort of state aid or introductory offer to get it open again. Anyone that has rented a house knows the rent always goes up after the initial contract has expired.
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ruskie
1 year ago
Congratulations to NN and his other half on this twattery and skullduggerly. Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it will stick. The shit in this instance, is the Kickstarter (simp) audience. When the business goes tits up, will the “investors” throw yet more money, or will it be once bitten twice shy…
well time will tell mate but i know a lot of people are keeping a close eye on this with several of them simply paying to get into the discord so they can in turn ask the questions that were completely ignored by nerd and crew during the campaign. you know, sensible and perfectly reasonable questions like “what are your opening hours ?”. also it will be interesting to see what’s said in there about the enterprise going forward, and perish the thought maybe people will be able to find out where all this money is going if they’ve already finished the business and are ready to open ? again, i’m simply spitballing but i hope it’s nothing to do with clearing the slice&dice debt which just by coincidence is almost the exact amount of money that was asked for on the kickstarter. can’t be that, though, that’d be really underhand and deceptive.
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Dr Mastiff
1 year ago
Dazz (DYKW), Ashens and NN have collectively 3.5 Million Subscribers, not to mention the circle jerk affiliates who shilled for the Kickstarter! So, for argument sake let’s say a potential reach of 3.7 to 3.9 Million people! And it only received 345 backers…(well 343 if you don’t count the 2 “sponsor” pledges).
My points are:
1. Surely if you are NN and look at the Subscriber to Backer ratio (even using his own 500k subs) it would show that 99.9% of your subscribers don’t give an actual fuck about your Barcade.
2. If the “sponsors” were really sponsors then why did they leave it to the dying hours to pledge, and secondly if they were legit sponsors why was there sponsorship donated through Kickstarter, anytime I dealt with sponsors, you pitched to them and they gave to the money you were looking for PRIVATELY, away from any other investments.
3. After reading Dazz’s comments on Twitter he stated that “Why would they jeopardise there campaign by putting in the money themselves…well it’s because there was never anything to lose! If kickstarter found out (they would do nothing anyway) but worse case would be that the campaign would close and they would receive nothing anyway, so surely the risk is to fund the extra 4K yourselves for the bigger prize!
Chinny Hill was absolutely correct though, you watch and wait, this isn’t over..next it’ll be a Kickstarter for The Making of..Barcadia book, then when the business inevitably starts going tits to the wind it’ll be either a Kickstarter to keep it afloat or a patreon with a free token system to help keep it funded on a monthly basis, the grift will never stop!! and sadly people will keep firing money into it because ….”It’s my favourite Z list YouTubers running it..and they care about me!!!” It complete fucking nonsense!
yes i replied to dazz several times last night. he was only able to start being abusive rather than tackle any of the questions/comments i made. quite telling really. i think it’s not that 99.9% of nn’s fans don’t give a fuck about barcadia, it’s that 99.9% of his fans don’t give a fuck about HIM. he’s completely disposable. it’ll be loads of americans who found him quaint in one video because his catch all piss would at some point have touched on something they wanted to learn nothing about, so they threw in a sub for that. his viewing figures, like most of these people, don’t tie into his subscriber count and by standard metrics his channel is dying – same for most of his ilk. the well is dry so they are scrabbling to find “something to do” wherein they can still maintain a degree of z grade infamy. as many are now saying, it’s time for all these people to fuck off and stop wasting everyone’s time with their piss thin content, grifting and contempt for their audience.
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An OK Boomer
1 year ago
Congrats! Not just to Pete and Sam for hitting their funding goal, but also to George. Can’t wait to see the videos George will make when Barcadia goes tits-up in 6 months’ time.
Vegan food should be cheaper than meat given that it’s all just plants which are way less expensive to raise, most of the time you only need rain and sun. But like anything “ethical” they double the price.
There’s that annoying Jack Monroe person, the one that was poor and then wrote a book about how to cook things when poor. The Graund featured her all the time. But she’s a bit dim, in a recent book she said if you don’t have a can opener you can use a hammer and a screwdriver. Plus instead of a rolling pin, use a bottle filled with water frozen in the freezer. That got her book pulled on safety grounds. Plus who on earth has a screwdriver and hammer but can’t afford a tin opener? Plus does freezing water somehow magically make it weigh more and work better for rolling stuff? you’re more likely to get bloody cold hand and drop the blooming thing.
Oh I’m hardly surprised. Such people rant about the government but then take every perk and bit of government money going. Much like Scargill and his “right to buy” flat application.
that will be funny to see if they descend on it ! keep me posted if you hear of such a thing happening mate i would be interested to see the food and i will never set wheels in the place so if the best i can do is live out the experience vicariously through some profoundly cynical, jaded youtube food critic then so be it !
good point mate that should be funny to read. if there’s any disharmony there we can expect peter to steam in, sorry, sam to steam in with a passive aggressive diffusion penned by peter, sorry, i mean penned by octavius for peter. or they’ll just let dazz do it and he can tell them to fuck off and threaten to smash their face in with a namaste on top.
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Bone
1 year ago
Well then. Didn’t see this coming.
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Gordon Ramsay's left eyebrow
1 year ago
When you stop, step back, and think this thru, if you back this on Kickstarter (dont get me started on that – I will just stick to my point), you are puttting your money into a business project, so, surely you are allowed to ask a few pertinent questions?
Imagine going on Dragons Den and asking for £25k, and when Peter Jones starts asking you a few hard questions about your plans, what they money will be used for etc, you get abusive and call him a troll…
It beggars belief…..
You just know they’re going to do an update and talk about all the haters and trolls. The word they are looking for is sceptics and when you are sceptical it is for them to convince you, sell your their idea and vision. To merely call you names and block your comments just shows they are not proficient in business.
Something to do with him doing very little work, getting paid a reasonable amount and possibly having a few women on the go? (pure speculation, but most “personalities” can’t resist).
This is exactly why they chose Kickstarter. Sam even said it herself in the comments – KS backers aren’t investors, and don’t need to be shown any business plans. (even though it would have been a super good-faith gesture to share their plans for the money, to assuage any fears). That’s when I knew they had nothing by contempt for their backers.
indeed mate i took note of that, too. “what the fuck right do you have to know anything, we just need your cash and because you’ve willingly given it to us for some bullshit discount on things that are already overpriced, you’re due fuck all from us” was the jist of it. these people aren’t business people. business people don’t deliberately and blatantly show contempt for their customers and fanbase from the off. it just shows how small minded and entitled they are. well, the future for this place shall be interesting !
Maybe he didn’t want to say he is in a relationship with Sam because he’s got a few people he’s seeing. Might have told them that Sam is strictly business. Of course this is playground level chat, but when answers aren’t given people fill in the gaps with their own speculations.
daz was giving it all the love and light in the world last night on twitter thanking their “mystery benefactor” (lol themselves). everything was all namaste until i turned up !
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Bob Flemming
1 year ago
What a complete farce this campaign is, thieving fucking twats. Some people did say this would get over the line with a few hours left with some help from some twatty family members or idiots pledging a few grand and getting it back when funded. Don’t wish things bad to happen to this place but hope it falls on it’s arse, nothing more than these Z list YouTubers deserve with their begging videos and talking “I’m Done with YouTube” bollocks…..get fucked Peter you smarmy prick. Going to cull some people I follow on YouTube , there are still a few out there who get on my tits. I might go to the bar and shit in their burgers, give it some flavor.
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Collieuk
1 year ago
Some cutting swipes there George. Don’t hold back fella! We all expected this, but part of me thought they couldn’t be so brazen about it. But just like some sort of retrogaming based freemasons, they’ll club together and help each other out. Then publicly high five each other. Oh and thank the everyday folk too who made it all possible of course. Unbelievable. I’ve been making retro videos for nearly 16 years now and never seen the need to watch anything these later arrivals put out, nor have I paid any attention to any of their no doubt groundbreaking, well researched and mind blowing video exclusives! So I went into this campaign fairly neutral. Now, however, their conduct in this campaign alone has made them come across as self-important, smug, arrogant attention seekers who wouldn’t think twice about taking advantage of their viewership if it meant gaining a leg up. They may be lovely people in real life, (maybe they nurse wounded pigeons back to health in their spare time) but there’s no excuse for treating people for mugs, and taking advantage of their good nature.
Honestly, the best “content creators” in this crowded field of appendage-wavers are those that go about it without fuss, without the need for self-aggrandisement and do videos for the sheer fun of it. That’s why folk like George will always have an air of authenticity about their videos that these wannabe influencers and excrement expeditors will never have. I look forward to the next videos.
well mate the one thing about this is that it’ll be something to cover and look into as it unfolds. i seriously hope they get that “pubic spider” lighting off the fucking roof, too. whoever put that up wants sectioned. and you’re right about how they’ve come across. as someone else has said in a comment on another video “when people tell you who they are – believe them”. i don’t think the majority of sane people involved in retro gaming will be in any doubt going forward as to who these bastards are and what’s happened here. and as for cutting swipes well someone had to say it, this is just a bridge too far and as usual they circle the wagons and band together to perpetuate one anothers grifting enterprises. the video kim justice made loitering on prince of wales road talking shit at 10am or whatever was just the last straw for me with them too. never prepared to stick their neck out for something worth challenging or getting involved in but as soon as their mates have a grift on it’s on like donkey kong. pathetic.
We don’t even know what hours they’ll be open as the pricks censored anyone who dared to ask. I’d bet on them opening for lunch only. Definitely not late into the night.
yes mate i’m hearing they refused to answer that question. utterly bizarre behaviour. i would say that is a fairly important bit of information to be shared regarding any business as in “when will it be open to function as a business so customers can give you money”. seems fucking baffling to be honest as to why that would be some closely guarded secret.
“if only they’d posted the opening hours online anywhere !”
Frisky Dingo
1 year ago
It’s beyond the pale. The most transparent grift I think I’ve ever seen. And yet, people continue to chuck their pennies into this poisoned well, despite the most obvious evidence that they just pushed themselves over the line, to secure the money pledged by everyone else. What is it about these personality vacuums that makes everyone in the UK retro community so eager to kiss their talentless arses? This surely signals the final death throes of the YouTube retro gaming “celebrity”, surely there will be no goodwill remaining for anyone else who tries this kind of shenanigans again.
I’ve asked myself time and time again., why is the money so easy to come by?
I can only think we need to look wider than retro. It’s the influencer thing. You are invited in to their lives, they share stuff about how happy and sad they are. They live stream stuff and chat away. They are your friend, you live through them,
It’s a brand and from that brand you can extend out. If you are big time you launch a perfume or a set of bum implants. If you are a risk adverse retro YouTuber who wants a fast buck, you write a book. Doesn’t matter if it’s crap. After all the suckers aren’t going to be reading it in Waterstones pre-purchase are they? They paid for it months in advance! And if the book doesn’t come out you just say you were sad but you tried really really hard. Or, as some people have done, you vanish off the face of the planet.
I don’t begrudge people making money. But I want them to be straight with me. You doing it for the love or because it’s better than doing another job more suited to your talents? How can you pretend to be an expert when every word that comes out of your mouth is written by someone else? When you have no love for the actual gear and can’t give a real opinion for fear of offending some of your audience? You have banal offend nobody output with no real opinions and you sit there reading the autocue dead eyed while waving your arms around to distract from ‘autocueitus’.
There are probably people reading this who think I’m a prick. That’s fair enough. But what would really wind me up is if someone thought I didn’t have a genuine love of this hobby or didn’t speak my own words.
The thing is not to let these idiots impact the rest of us. I enjoy sharing stuff with people. The good, the bad. The things running a Youtube channel has given me is meeting new people and being forced to discover new stuff outside my Amstrad/Spectrum/C64/Amiga comfort zone. I probably wouldn’t own an MSX without having the channel and that’s been a vast journey of discovery at times. Likewise getting my BBC out of storage and going “right about time I used this properly”. Yes I could probably do this without a channel but if I can encourage a few people along the way to try stuff out, it’s worth it.
Also Alan Sugar pays me 25 grand a year to shill for Amstrad, and lads, that makes it all worthwhile.
it’s americans mate. a lot of americans and people outside the uk. people in the uk are sick of these pricks and most of us know they’re desperate cunts. americans, however, bless them, they think of these people as quaint with their wacky british systems and suchlike and their accents (that are not american). i mean in america you have bastards like the game chasers, pat contri and all that shower so i can understand them looking further afield. however, the fact that these uk twats have the temerity to present themselves as “personalities” is the most ironic thing of all, as in order to be one i would at least presume that you have to have one. dialogue written by others, editing done by others, talking on topics they know fuck all about, it’s all just a front for vapid bastards who’ve discovered a nice little grifting niche and have figured out how to squeeze product and money from their deluded fans in the most passive aggressive, sneaky way possible.
the fake friend thing is very real, with people often paying a lot to get photos etc with influencers and suchlike and these z-grade bastards even though they are way down the u-bend still have some “clout” due to their ubiquity on social media and their apparently large youtube following (although if those followers really gave a shit something like barcadia would have been funded in seconds and they wouldn’t have needed to chuck in 5k themselves just to scrape over the line). people want these useless farts in human form to be reading out their names online, thanking them etc, as you say it makes them feel like they’ve a friend who respects them. it’s buying friendship, though, and that never works BUT as long as people are kept at arms length it’s fine. for example, ashens noticeably withered when faced with the possibility of meeting “fans” and i imagine they’re all like this. the entire scene for these twits is going to implode sooner or later and i think barcadia has lit a fuse that cannot be extinguished. as these bastards close ranks and fight to stay in the light i think things could become interesting and myself and others will be here to cover everything that unfolds !
i don’t think you’re a prick mate i think you’re alright !
I suspect many people are oblivious to what goes on and just take stuff at face value. I’m reminded of all the timeshare stuff in the 80’s. All sorts of people screaming “don’t do it” and people just walking into it anyway.
The only crumb of comfort I have is many of us were involved in the scene before these people arrived (be it posting on forums or whatever) and we’ll hopefully be here when these people are long gone.
And don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of new people getting interested in the 8 and 16 bits. And what motivates me is just trying to show it’s accessible and interesting. But it has to be for the right reasons. Be it seeing a new Vic 20 game (just been playing a superb new racing game) or getting someone interested in a system that have never used rather than sitting in their single machine silo (yes I know we all argued our corner at school but my secret dream was to own them all!).
Perhaps this happens to every hobby when the money moves in. It feels a far cry from the days of reading on CSS that Retro Gamer had launched and then it might go monthly. This seemed like madness. A magazine about old computers? Surely the only people who cared were the saddos like me posting on Usenet. This was going to fall on its arse! I was wrong! We were at the start of something.
Let alone I might have modern storage on my machines. Things were so bad by 2000 that that I only bought machines out for high days and holidays with my regular use being on emulation! Now I have everything on SD cards and all my machines are on in seconds! The support is amazing. Storage, power supplies, cables, signal converters. It’s fantastic and I am genuinely grateful to the people who sell these things. And I didn’t see the HxC chap, The Future Was 8 Bit or Mike Chi (Retro Tink) begging for money on Kickstarter. All 3 of those people fronted up their own cash for their products. Terrifying amounts I suspect for some of the products (tooling for injection moulded cases alone is big money).
There’s lots to be grateful for in the community and the people contributing throw those who just see it as a cash cow into sharp relief. We need to celebrate those who have given something and throw the e-begging grifters in the bin.
Those guys are great. Making things which actually benefit the retro gaming community rather than releasing an ego massaging book.
Voultar is another gem – always really helpful, friendly and his soldering videos have been a god send. Rob of RetroRGB too. His website is a goldmine of retro goodness, and his weekly podcasts, which are free, are a delight. These guys and gals are proper retro gaming enthusiasts.
it is really quite something mate, i’ll give them that. peter has finally blocked me on facebook because he posted a picture where he was smiling like cherie blair. i think a lot of their fans are americans who find their quaint “britishness” a plus whereas to real british people we just see intolerable arseholes.
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James P
1 year ago
As the saying goes a fool and his money. Even if come of comments on the KS where trolling there are valid questions like opening hours, cost to play, and my favourite what is the relationship with slice and dice. I object to being called a troll simply because I did into fall inline and started asking questions about where a signifiant amount of money was going. Its very clear this site is being discussed at length in some new discord mk2. They really pulled out the big guns getting Quag and Kim. Its clear Ashens does not even care enough to make a video. He alone has over a million subs on YT you are not telling me he could not get a single sponsorship for £25k if he really wanted to and believed in the project. As George and others have said before the YT UK retro well is running dry and they all know it so they need other income streams. However a vegan retro arcade bar in the wrong part of town opening during the worst income squeeze in living memory is not it. If arcades where such great money makers and people still wanted to go to them they would be all over the place Quag. People need to get out of the retro bubble and see what’s really going on.
were you “wayne” ? i thought a lot of what i saw, and i didn’t see it all in fairness, was quite reasonable. relentless yes but i would say it was reasonable. and you are right mate these people need to move their grift elsewhere as it’s clear that the well of youtube “fame” isn’t producing the sweet water it once did. someone (all these cunts) has filled it with stools !
No I was not Wayne that was more effort than I was willing to put in. Like you said a lot of people in this hobby are on the “on the spectrum” so can therefore get hyper focused on things. Wayne might have been a troll or just someone with a lot of questions. Like I said it does not matter ether way, they were all valid questions. Something simple like opening times should be an easy answer
i’m not sure i saw the opening times question and christ, yes, that would surely have been one of the easiest possible questions to answer. sort of day one business design sort of thing isn’t it ? what hours do you open ? what i disliked the most is that anyone with an actually reasonable question or a plethora thereof just got written off as a troll. peter is a spineless, barefaced grifter and that’s all he’s interested in. “oh thanks hun” is about his level and no more. actual interaction can’t be expected from someone who can’t even be arsed to write his own content any more and farms it out to someone who has an actually established track record of failing to write their own content, too ! (video games saved my life, anyone ?)
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Chinnyhill10
1 year ago
A last minute push over the line against the trend of where the campaign was headed is exactly what I expected to happen.
Get ready for a crowd funder for the book of how they opened their own bar followed by a crowdfunder to keep this ‘unique’ venue afloat.
The one advantage of being an Amstrad owner is at least all the parasites stay away from our scene as nobody can be arsed doing a CPC Mini or some terrible coffee table book where emulated screenshots of Bridge It are blown up over 2 A4 sized pages
UN Squadron mate it’s on the arcade and the SNES and to be honest the SNES is the better version as you can choose your route through the game, although it loses the two player option from what i recall.
it’s a great game mate also another arcade game that’s surprisingly easy. the SNES version is definitely worth checking out too !
Ross Sillifant
1 year ago
The old saying about a fool and their money… has never been more true than here.
We knew certain individuals would help push this over the line and we know Peter will be back sooner or later, asking for more money, to keep the venue the afloat, citing rising energy costs etc.
I thought i had seen it all, when people crowd funded a book that hadn’t even been written (but we are assured is being written as we speak 🤔).
But this, marketed as if it’s something Norwich has been crying out for, for years.
Anywho, I await the inevitable angry feedback, when the great unwashed that use the venue, find a distinct absence of expected YT celbs present and themselves pretty much ignored by the likes of Peter, as they are deemed unworthy of his time.
They are going to have massive overheads
Rent
Gas / Electric
Waste disposal
Rent of machines
Staff
The list goes on
Do they even have a business plan, how many vegan burgers will they need to sell just to keep the lights on. Six months and it will be gone (in its current form) I am 100% sure of this now. Slice and dice along with Barcadia will become one and the same before then. I can see then coming back to the KS well one last time to try and keep the lights on before the end
And look at line 2915, it would appear that the rates are now going to be due as there is an “Upto 6 months” period where you would not pay due to being unoccupied.
That would have started end October 2022 so, 6 months later, you are looking at end April for that to expire.
the thing with these people is that this now sets a precedent for anyone to step up to grift and it doesn’t even matter if they have a finished product or not. the other standout current grift is octavius and her a to z of badly written, depressing situations. that’s yet to surface because it’s “tough work”. well, if i was getting paid to sit and make a show of myself pissing about with rats on twitch i’d probably not bother putting pen to paper either ! i feel bad for people who are at their wits end with financial worry when we have beaming simpletons like this racking up a disaster on someone elses dime just for the sheer jollies of it. it’s absolutely bizarre and tantamount to spitting in the face of reality. cloud cuckoo land.
indeed mate, good luck with that ! at the very best, if it’s ever published, it’ll be a misery manual ! can i ask WHY you pledged mate ? not being funny here, was it a perceived allegiance with the person involved, was it a desire to buy into their favour, what was the actual reason ? again, i’m just curious as to why people fund stuff like this. my aspergers would prevent me from funding anything that can’t get tetris right, to be honest (see book cover)
Blinded by tits probably is the right answer, but did enjoy her earlier content, and thought it may be along those lines and a way of supporting a creator. Seems so long ago pledging that I do feel a dunce for doing so. Cest la vie.
That’s what I was thinking. If it failed then that would not be very newsworthy. We now have Youtube reviews, Trip Advisor, Google Reviews to read and laugh at. There will be a lot of ordinary joe public types expecting to get a cow burger in there instead of all the Mekon food.
Especially when there are so many legit ways to get money.
Surely if Slice and Dice is profitable the bank alone would jump at the chance to give them, what is in reality, a small loan to expand?
I know people who were unemployed but yet were loaned thousands by local Govt schemes to start their own businesses in the name of unemployment figures and boosting local economies.
One can only assume the financials are not great, are seen as a liability and KS was a last resort. They are already in hock to their necks or this nothing but a pure grift.
That’s probably a good shout
“See Mr Bank man, I can just raise £25k as and when I like. You’d be insane not to invest in us…….yes I’m filming this… for a YouTube series”
That’s before the assets are offset against it, isn’t it? Either way, s+d is in the red, and that’s never the time to expand ones empire. A most counterintuitive move on Sam’s part.
Does it mention the turnover and income? be interesting to see how much they actual take in vs going out. Naturally energy prices are high and should fall, but then with a choice between two political parties who are both pushing the net zero thing the only way is up for all our bills, making people poor means they generate less CO2 (but more methane from increased baked bean consumption).
That sounds about right. I don’t have the figures in front of me, but Slice+Dice had something like 60k in current liabilities yet only 35k in assets (mainly fixed assets).
For non accountants:
– current liabilities = debts due in the next 12 months
– fixed assets = assets that may be difficult to sell and are often mandatory for the business to function
Dont worry according to some write up in a local rag I saw. Sam is going to spilt her time between the two businesses. Which reads like they are both going to be open at the same time. Therefore further splitting the vegan crowd who are willing to pay £18 for a burger. However what do I know, I am just a simple troll at the end of the day who knows nothing about business, arcades, vegans, or Norwich
Everyone knows that the vegans that like playing retro arcade games when eating a mushroom burger are a totally different crowd to the vegans who play board games when eating a mushroom burger.
It happens, tough trading conditions and all that. Just today a friend of mine said the cafe near to him which I’ve visited with him in the past it looking for donations to reopen. It’s a bit of a casual “open when I feel like it” sort of place, so I’m not surprised it is struggling.
It’s 14 days since their campaign ended, so Kickstarter should be paying out the jackpot soon.
I saw the website is up. With what must be stock photos. Also, pinball? there was no mention of that in the campaign. https://www.barcadia.uk/
no mate there was no mention of it and i doubt they will have it either ! pinball is costly to source and maintain. no one has fully working pinballs just sitting around doing nothing these days !
Yep, I looked into buying one about 6 years ago. There’s a lot to go wrong, the youtube channel Joes Classic Video Games showed me all the repairs needed. You can of course go down the virtual route but then anyone can get one of those at home.
I believe they won’t last a year. They won’t be able to maintain these machines once they start to break down (which will be frequently). They probably achieved their goal with a few shill accounts since it was an all or nothing campaign.
Thanks for covering this story George!
watch the dazz strikes back video mate i cover what happened with the “sponsors” of the campaign, who dazz himself admitted had pushed them over the finish line
What is this “amazing vegan food” angle supposed to even be? If the idea is to aim this thing at retro gamers, or gamers in general, vegan food is the last thing on their minds. Have you seen the state or most of them? They don’t give a shit about their diets! This is just more hipster bollocks for the sake of it. Bust out the 13cm tall cheese burgers and cater to your intended audience ffs.
Excuse my spelling mistake there but… I’m busy… eating… fries and burgers… and trying to play 1943 at… RETRO REPLAY!
lol excused mate, it’s a noble endeavour !
True. Most retrogamers are fatties that enjoy their dead animals and grease. You can tell Pete isn’t a real retrogamer because he pays way too much attention to his appearance.
i think he looks like the dad out of “the modern parents” in viz
Oh my god. He really does.
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yes mate 100% !
Nailed it.
indeed mate, it is very much hipster bollocks BUT it’s deluded hipster bollocks as hipsters don’t want to play frogger and other “well known” titles they’ll want pachinko machines and ddr for that touch of post modern irony. this is a fail on all sides created by people severely labouring under the weight of their own self importance.
There’s no such thing as “Amazing Vegan Food”.
There’s:
“this is shit, no wonder why most Vegans are miserable cunts”
“This is like Cardboard and barely within the legal definition of food”,
and
“This isn’t too too bad, y’know, considering it’s Vegan Food”.
i tried a vegan sausage a few months ago. it was horrible. tasted like watered down marmite. shit !
The bank manger must have pissed himself laughing when they presented their ‘business plan’
“Hey Susan, guess what those two just asked for….you’ll never get it so I’ll tell you.
A ‘YouTuber’ who has no experience in retail, and a lady with a debt heavy snakes and ladders shop want to borrow a load of money… guess what for!?? They want to open a bar down stabby-stabby-willy-out street, rent out a few electricity guzzling arcade machines and change people for them, AND they want to have serve expensive Vegan food.
… I know right! Not only that, but there’s an established business down the road which charges a single fee to play ALL the machines, and the snakes and ladders shop the lady owns, is also a vegan food place….. I know! It’s a niche market in a pissy area AND they want to make it more niche by cannibalising their other business!! And get this…. They want to do this during a cost of living crisis where we have high energy costs and the cost of borrowing is the highest it’s been in 15 years!!! …so I told them to F off and start begging”
Love that road name.
…and his proposed business name was “Shots and Slots”.
To be fair, “Shots and Slots” would be a good name for a bar in that part of Norwich, though some of the punters walking through the door might be disappointed when they find that the titular slots are not what the kinds of slots they were expecting.
that to me just implies gambling machines and people getting absolutely shitfaced.
Just released: https://youtu.be/feC9UX8PyQk
Excuses from Octavius King
“Louis?” “Lewie”? This is a new one. But the rest is the same shite as always.
LOUIE and yes it’s the usual push me – pull you bollocks “i thought long and hard about leaving youtube and decided to do fuck all and make another video about my struggles so i can continue to define myself with them” change the record and go away you numbskull !
Octavius would probably make more money if she left YouTube and went to OnlyFans. She wouldn’t even have to nude up. I’m sure she still has plenty of simps thirsty enough to spend 50 quid on a jar of her bath water or whatever.
WTF is it with these people and the hollow talk of ‘Wahhh i’ m leaving YT’.OHHH NO I’M NOT’.
It’s the worst kind of pantomime going.
Just piss or get off the pot.
Anyone, literally anyone can do what they are doing.
Probably better if they had better researchers than the limp dicks they currently use.
Yep, it’s the social media equivalent of a DFS sale. “Sale ends soon” when DFS seems to have a sale on pretty much every day.
the hokey cokey that many of these wankers take part in is just that, a childish dance only performed by fucking idiots with zero self awareness in adulthood. if all of these wankers who keep threatening to fuck off WOULD actually fuck off then youtube would be a better place.
LOUIE needs to step away from YouTube, twitter, the lot. He/they/whatever is clearly extremely mentally disturbed or at least, struggles very much with the pressures of being a creative persona online. Louie needs to embark on some self care immediately.
it’s been said multiple times mate as stated i said this YEARS ago and it’s just gotten worse since then. the behaviour has gotten more and more scatterbrained, the output less and less frequent, the “honest and upfront” videos more regular to the point where the only thing it can be associated with now is whining and self pity. as for the notion that it wants to start a help channel for people with mental issues, how about “FUCK OFF” ?
My name is Lilly ? Not Sarah. I am sure this video will be saved and looked it in detail by many people. Hopfully she gets the support she needs, I am still not sure she should be making videos. However thats not my call. Hopefully she finishes the book that people have paid for
Louie mate not Lilly. LOUIE.
Er ok whatever makes them happy. Just looked at Twitter and the bio now reads “Louis he/they box of frog”
For the record life is hard and sometimes far to short so call yourself whatever makes you happy. Looks like they have had the sense to stay clear of this bar mess
“Me me me me me me me *deep breath* me me me me me me….”
I have more than enough experience with anxiety to know that the first thing a CBT approach calls for is to face it. I was ignoring it for about a year then had to take a few months off work to get the help I needed as it physically made me ill.
If you drop your head in the sand like octavious has you will fucking fester away, as much as I pity what she’s going through at this point she’s doing it to herself as the easy option.
Facing it and using your own brains logic centres and making new pathways to stop the panic cycle is the only fucking way to do it.
Why define yourself like this, fuck living as your own victim.
i said this years ago when i made my horacegate videos mate i have suffered with and struggle with depression myself and with good reason but do i let it be my persona ? do i constantly mine for sympathy and use it to define me ? do i fuck ! no-one wants to hear about that and i don’t want to double down on it. what she’s doing is futile in the extreme.
Her books going to be bleaker than being stuck on a bus with 52 Jewish kids watching Schindler’s list on one of those old 14 inch CRTs stuck on a bus ceiling surrounded by fibreglass and cheap carpet while breaking down in the middle of a mains gas leak.
She needs to get out more and stop with all the victim shit, what the fucks wrong with writing a book about feeling happy.
indeed mate. ultimately the “victim shit” is what defines her, and it’s what she’s continually harping on and on about. she’s a fucking grifting idiot with zero self respect who’s allowed herself to be reduced to a pity totem that people periodically throw coins at. it’s pathetic, but it’s her “living”
Seems to me the worst thing you can do is revisit games and other creative works which take you back to a particular troubling time in your life. There’s songs I can’t really play because they remind me of a very bad relationship I had. So to regress back to times of much worse and then wonder why you’re relapsing?
yes mate i completely agree i am quite affected by some pieces of music in that way i haven’t ever had a relationship but i have had some dark times and it’s funny how these feelings can stick like limpets to pieces of popular culture that then have the power to bring it all back if deployed ! i’ve said it before, i have no fucking idea why she’s doing this to herself save for the obvious answer of it providing the pity pounds :/
Jesus wept. How many personas can one person have… It’s Louis .. no Sarah… No Octy… Oh wait she’s just a fictitious character, or is she? Fuck sake. She’s clearly disturbed. And she’s studying to be what… a psychologist. Fuck sake…. Five minutes with her and anyone sane would be jumping out the window. It would be like having the Joker and Harlequin as your psychologist. You’d come out more fucked up than you did before you went in.
it’s the age old nonsense of “physician, heal thyself”. presumably she thinks that by studying and working in that field she can somehow unpick the self inflicted fuckery that is her current outlook on the world. it’s nonsense, she needs professional help not a college course in how to shit in other people’s brains, too !
If the “last big backer” ensures they use a credit card that will bounce (one of those onetime disposable numbers, for example) the campaign will still succeed but there will be no need to pay back the person who made the pledge, and no 10% tax taken by Kickstarter- meaning it would be *free* to rig the completion…
Now that is interesting to know
Well its been funded, now time to watch this train wreak over the coming months. My money is on it being closed by winter. Some of the KS comments I cant even tell if they are trolling are just deluded
“Thank you so much for your efforts to recreate the magic of the arcade days, I can’t wait to play games, eat awesome vegan food, meet fellow gamers and finally have a place to just nerd out!
I think this will be a fun and popular place in time, and a real step towards bringing some fresh new life to Prince of Wales St (which it desperately needs, IMO!)
Best of luck, I’ll be there as soon as the doors open! :D”
They’ll go once, see the food is £18 for a burger and never bother again.
I wonder if Peter has pushed things too far with this. Yes it has been “funded” with some real backer money. However a lot a people are very angry at this one, he might have just poisoned the well him him and all those who are involved in the secret club they clearly all in. This business does not need to exit, Slice and Dice is close by as is another arcade place. That is more than most towns / cities in the UK will ever have. I have been in this hobby for a very long time and have seen people come and people go but this is bad. Ashens was on twitch last night doing some watch party of some shitty film over 500 watching, one 30 second plug from him could have sent a lot of them to the KS but no nothing. Like others have said if they community really wanted this it would have been funded in hours and gone way over target. The comments on the KS are a right mess one of the worst I have seen for an active project. I have spoken with a few people who have backed, just so they can get access to the discord to watch this mess unfold to them £10-£20 is worth it just for the laughs. Anyone who read news knows how bad things are right now with the price of everything rocketing Like George said vegans are not on the bread line worrying about how much money they have for food this week. Peter and Co are clearly in some bubble where the economy is going great and people have a lot of disposable income for £18 burgers at lunch. If I was local Slice and Dice does look like the kind of place I would stop for a coffee however that would be once in a blue moon / on a holiday. However it also feels like the kind of place I would get a lecture about my leather shoes along with my coffee
i believe they have indeed pushed things too far with this mate. it’s clearly an outright grift and it was obvious from the start, now this “mystery benefactor” drops almost 5k for NO REWARD on the kickstarter ? it’s clearly bollocks and clearly them dropping what they have to so that they can scoop up the rest. I personally think it’s there to pull another business out of dire straits, but that’s just supposition on my part and nothing to do with the fact that their companies house filings are showing a business that’s clearly labouring under the weight of it’s own “right on” self importance and financial ineptitude. but, still, that’s just a supposition. ashens will do nothing more in my opinion. all of this lot are so aloof and entitled and this has definitely gone sour no matter how one looks at it so expect everyone to start saying as ashens already has “oh that’s peter and sam’s thing” and distancing themselves from it whilst never outright saying “yes, that was a fucking scandalous deception and a grift of the highest order”.
I am glad that I am not the only one who is angry at this. I am not even sure how much of a Peter thing this is. Yes he might be vegan and like arcades but running a business like this takes a lot of work. To me it smells of upper middle class “liberal guilt” Like I keep saying the Slice and Dice business is clearly way more involved than they are letting on. Its clearly not an arcade at happens to sell vegan food. Its a vegan pub that has a few arcade machines that will only be turned on at times will have the machines on. The place looks massive so god knows how many staff they will need and how much they will need to turnover just to keep the lights on. I cant see Peter running food out to tables or pulling pints.
Will the alcohol be vegan too? only there’s a lot of it which isn’t because it gets cleared with finings made from fish bladders (isinglass).
The fact that Ashens didn’t give the Barcadia Kickstarter a plug during said watch party speaks volumes.
as per usual it’s about controlling their image and at the moment barcadia isn’t lensing well so it’s much better for him to be out of the equation. as he said when previously quizzed on it “that’s peter and sam’s thing” so really nothing to do with him at all, or at least not when the hard questions are being asked.
He needs to focus on the day job. His videos lack to comedic spectacle, they’ve never been the same since all the bad pound shops closed.
Says a lot that Ashens’ most popular YouTube videos are all a decade or more old, and he rarely uploads anything there these days (the few he does produce are retreads of old topics). The TV career he seemed to long for never happened either.
like most of these people, i think ashens is off the boil and new blood has come through. they were “of an era” and now that era is over, it’s the same with all entertainment media – nothing lasts forever and nothing is valid forever. apart from Roger Cook, of course.
and death wish 3
Something smells rotten in Norwich.
…I’m told Vegan food just smells like that regardless.
I know all these guys from the circle jerk!
I supply them
i wasn’t aware that one could snort hubris
I have my own business and theres no way it wii last more than 8 months and NN will be back making videos about how brown the C64 is.
They will open, get the summer trade which will create an illusion of success and then be in with a huge shock once the weather goes downhill.
I pretty much knew NN’s character years ago, I haven’t watched his videos for years, but his earlier content seemed to say how often as a kid (we’re the same age, 40) he’d go through a new system (even if second hand) merely months between them, taking his words as gospel, that he got /this/ system and /that/ console in xxxx year, means he must have been a spoiled as a kid; and it’s that background that shows through in many of these YouTubers.
Last, always, always, be wary of someone who has to point out their virtues in life. I learned that very early in life when I saw all these so-called Christians at the church my mom took me to, pointing out their do-gooding for all to see and hear; when behind closed doors they were shagging around, committing fraud, evading tax, talking ill of people with less wealth, making homophobic and racist attacks and more…needless to say, I’m not religious as an adult. The fact that so many of these YT folks spend more time pointing out their virtues says more about them than anything else.
i agree mate it’s always pointing out their virtues and also the shameless begging in a really passive aggressive manner “give us your money for nothing ! oh but no seriously you can give us it for love, you know, but if you want to give us it for nothing then we’ll love you for ever and ever” some pathetic comment like that said in a 1/2 joking (but not really joking) manner is a tactic that’s been deployed by nigh on all of them. insufferable, two faced jerks who don’t actually seem to enjoy gaming whatsoever and have just fallen into a rut of “well the fans pay me to do this so i might as well go for another scrape of the bottom of the barrel, hm, what will i do today ? ah okay yes, how about the top ten facts about the snes that everyone knows ? that will do it. hm, will have to find someone else to write it, too”. i’ve no idea about nostalgia nerd’s background but that level of insufferable doesn’t come from nowhere, it’s been encouraged. whether that be by family or fans, who knows, but he’s an unwatchable and entitled oik.
For me, it was the “so. Get. Involved. ” in the kickstarter that made me gag. Firstly, backer “involvement” is little more than being a silent contributor to someone else’s project, in exchange for practically fuck-all. And the presumptuousness of expecting everyone to come flocking to help because theyre “celebrities”.
The relative silence of the other usual suspects on the scene speaks volumes. They’ve barely said a positive nor critical thing about it, strange when they’ve been all too happy to wade into a controversy to get their two cents in. Kim Justice and Quang’s last-moment involvement feels to me like it was precipitated by a bit of begging on Peters part. Trista Bytes doesn’t appear to have touched it with a ten foot gaming chair either. Usually they all come out to cheer on their pals. But not this time. I think mostly they know that recent grifts, lies, and scams have made many people skeptical and they’re keeping away in case they look complicit. Barcadia represents a sea change in the UK retro gaming scene, which I believe will culminate in the evaporation of the “celebrity” status of the likes of NN, Octav1us, Slopes, THGM et al. And about time too.
I got to say this news is vile and disgusting on all levels. The pub is a grade II and while many of you nerds may think so wot? This is a prized piece of local Norwich architecture. If it cant be restored to a pub then it should remain closed. Its not fit for a pub, which is a british insitution historically to be turned into an arcade. Its a fucking disgrace that video games should have any place in a historical pub. It would be like turning the Albert Hall into a brothel. As for you nerds half of you here live with your parents and dont go out, so why on earth the Nerd thinks he will have customers is anyones guess.
That’s probably why it has stood empty for 5 years. I wonder if they’ve got some sort of state aid or introductory offer to get it open again. Anyone that has rented a house knows the rent always goes up after the initial contract has expired.
Congratulations to NN and his other half on this twattery and skullduggerly. Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it will stick. The shit in this instance, is the Kickstarter (simp) audience. When the business goes tits up, will the “investors” throw yet more money, or will it be once bitten twice shy…
well time will tell mate but i know a lot of people are keeping a close eye on this with several of them simply paying to get into the discord so they can in turn ask the questions that were completely ignored by nerd and crew during the campaign. you know, sensible and perfectly reasonable questions like “what are your opening hours ?”. also it will be interesting to see what’s said in there about the enterprise going forward, and perish the thought maybe people will be able to find out where all this money is going if they’ve already finished the business and are ready to open ? again, i’m simply spitballing but i hope it’s nothing to do with clearing the slice&dice debt which just by coincidence is almost the exact amount of money that was asked for on the kickstarter. can’t be that, though, that’d be really underhand and deceptive.
Dazz (DYKW), Ashens and NN have collectively 3.5 Million Subscribers, not to mention the circle jerk affiliates who shilled for the Kickstarter! So, for argument sake let’s say a potential reach of 3.7 to 3.9 Million people! And it only received 345 backers…(well 343 if you don’t count the 2 “sponsor” pledges).
My points are:
1. Surely if you are NN and look at the Subscriber to Backer ratio (even using his own 500k subs) it would show that 99.9% of your subscribers don’t give an actual fuck about your Barcade.
2. If the “sponsors” were really sponsors then why did they leave it to the dying hours to pledge, and secondly if they were legit sponsors why was there sponsorship donated through Kickstarter, anytime I dealt with sponsors, you pitched to them and they gave to the money you were looking for PRIVATELY, away from any other investments.
3. After reading Dazz’s comments on Twitter he stated that “Why would they jeopardise there campaign by putting in the money themselves…well it’s because there was never anything to lose! If kickstarter found out (they would do nothing anyway) but worse case would be that the campaign would close and they would receive nothing anyway, so surely the risk is to fund the extra 4K yourselves for the bigger prize!
Chinny Hill was absolutely correct though, you watch and wait, this isn’t over..next it’ll be a Kickstarter for The Making of..Barcadia book, then when the business inevitably starts going tits to the wind it’ll be either a Kickstarter to keep it afloat or a patreon with a free token system to help keep it funded on a monthly basis, the grift will never stop!! and sadly people will keep firing money into it because ….”It’s my favourite Z list YouTubers running it..and they care about me!!!” It complete fucking nonsense!
yes i replied to dazz several times last night. he was only able to start being abusive rather than tackle any of the questions/comments i made. quite telling really. i think it’s not that 99.9% of nn’s fans don’t give a fuck about barcadia, it’s that 99.9% of his fans don’t give a fuck about HIM. he’s completely disposable. it’ll be loads of americans who found him quaint in one video because his catch all piss would at some point have touched on something they wanted to learn nothing about, so they threw in a sub for that. his viewing figures, like most of these people, don’t tie into his subscriber count and by standard metrics his channel is dying – same for most of his ilk. the well is dry so they are scrabbling to find “something to do” wherein they can still maintain a degree of z grade infamy. as many are now saying, it’s time for all these people to fuck off and stop wasting everyone’s time with their piss thin content, grifting and contempt for their audience.
Congrats! Not just to Pete and Sam for hitting their funding goal, but also to George. Can’t wait to see the videos George will make when Barcadia goes tits-up in 6 months’ time.
Did u say tits
Yep. And there are plenty of them in the British retrogaming scene.
Let’s hope this vegan burger for the price is one of the best ones on the market second to none outside of the 6 arcade machines
As I suspect Peter hasn’t considered the UK fast food review influencers will be after this bar for content and they’re a vicious bunch.
Vegan food should be cheaper than meat given that it’s all just plants which are way less expensive to raise, most of the time you only need rain and sun. But like anything “ethical” they double the price.
it’s a fashion too mate. you don’t get many breadline vegans, if we’re being honest.
There’s that annoying Jack Monroe person, the one that was poor and then wrote a book about how to cook things when poor. The Graund featured her all the time. But she’s a bit dim, in a recent book she said if you don’t have a can opener you can use a hammer and a screwdriver. Plus instead of a rolling pin, use a bottle filled with water frozen in the freezer. That got her book pulled on safety grounds. Plus who on earth has a screwdriver and hammer but can’t afford a tin opener? Plus does freezing water somehow magically make it weigh more and work better for rolling stuff? you’re more likely to get bloody cold hand and drop the blooming thing.
She’s a grifter. https://tattle.life/wiki/jack-monroe/#curious-contradictions
Oh I’m hardly surprised. Such people rant about the government but then take every perk and bit of government money going. Much like Scargill and his “right to buy” flat application.
that will be funny to see if they descend on it ! keep me posted if you hear of such a thing happening mate i would be interested to see the food and i will never set wheels in the place so if the best i can do is live out the experience vicariously through some profoundly cynical, jaded youtube food critic then so be it !
TripAdvisor, Yelp…
good point mate that should be funny to read. if there’s any disharmony there we can expect peter to steam in, sorry, sam to steam in with a passive aggressive diffusion penned by peter, sorry, i mean penned by octavius for peter. or they’ll just let dazz do it and he can tell them to fuck off and threaten to smash their face in with a namaste on top.
Well then. Didn’t see this coming.
When you stop, step back, and think this thru, if you back this on Kickstarter (dont get me started on that – I will just stick to my point), you are puttting your money into a business project, so, surely you are allowed to ask a few pertinent questions?
Imagine going on Dragons Den and asking for £25k, and when Peter Jones starts asking you a few hard questions about your plans, what they money will be used for etc, you get abusive and call him a troll…
It beggars belief…..
You just know they’re going to do an update and talk about all the haters and trolls. The word they are looking for is sceptics and when you are sceptical it is for them to convince you, sell your their idea and vision. To merely call you names and block your comments just shows they are not proficient in business.
lol nostalgia nerd finally blocked me earlier today for asking him why he smiles like tony blair’s wife in most of his photos :-p
Something to do with him doing very little work, getting paid a reasonable amount and possibly having a few women on the go? (pure speculation, but most “personalities” can’t resist).
This is exactly why they chose Kickstarter. Sam even said it herself in the comments – KS backers aren’t investors, and don’t need to be shown any business plans. (even though it would have been a super good-faith gesture to share their plans for the money, to assuage any fears). That’s when I knew they had nothing by contempt for their backers.
indeed mate i took note of that, too. “what the fuck right do you have to know anything, we just need your cash and because you’ve willingly given it to us for some bullshit discount on things that are already overpriced, you’re due fuck all from us” was the jist of it. these people aren’t business people. business people don’t deliberately and blatantly show contempt for their customers and fanbase from the off. it just shows how small minded and entitled they are. well, the future for this place shall be interesting !
Maybe he didn’t want to say he is in a relationship with Sam because he’s got a few people he’s seeing. Might have told them that Sam is strictly business. Of course this is playground level chat, but when answers aren’t given people fill in the gaps with their own speculations.
I think Peter might like his sausage seasoned with a bit of Daz Automatic.
daz was giving it all the love and light in the world last night on twitter thanking their “mystery benefactor” (lol themselves). everything was all namaste until i turned up !
What a complete farce this campaign is, thieving fucking twats. Some people did say this would get over the line with a few hours left with some help from some twatty family members or idiots pledging a few grand and getting it back when funded. Don’t wish things bad to happen to this place but hope it falls on it’s arse, nothing more than these Z list YouTubers deserve with their begging videos and talking “I’m Done with YouTube” bollocks…..get fucked Peter you smarmy prick. Going to cull some people I follow on YouTube , there are still a few out there who get on my tits. I might go to the bar and shit in their burgers, give it some flavor.
Some cutting swipes there George. Don’t hold back fella! We all expected this, but part of me thought they couldn’t be so brazen about it. But just like some sort of retrogaming based freemasons, they’ll club together and help each other out. Then publicly high five each other. Oh and thank the everyday folk too who made it all possible of course. Unbelievable. I’ve been making retro videos for nearly 16 years now and never seen the need to watch anything these later arrivals put out, nor have I paid any attention to any of their no doubt groundbreaking, well researched and mind blowing video exclusives! So I went into this campaign fairly neutral. Now, however, their conduct in this campaign alone has made them come across as self-important, smug, arrogant attention seekers who wouldn’t think twice about taking advantage of their viewership if it meant gaining a leg up. They may be lovely people in real life, (maybe they nurse wounded pigeons back to health in their spare time) but there’s no excuse for treating people for mugs, and taking advantage of their good nature.
Honestly, the best “content creators” in this crowded field of appendage-wavers are those that go about it without fuss, without the need for self-aggrandisement and do videos for the sheer fun of it. That’s why folk like George will always have an air of authenticity about their videos that these wannabe influencers and excrement expeditors will never have. I look forward to the next videos.
well mate the one thing about this is that it’ll be something to cover and look into as it unfolds. i seriously hope they get that “pubic spider” lighting off the fucking roof, too. whoever put that up wants sectioned. and you’re right about how they’ve come across. as someone else has said in a comment on another video “when people tell you who they are – believe them”. i don’t think the majority of sane people involved in retro gaming will be in any doubt going forward as to who these bastards are and what’s happened here. and as for cutting swipes well someone had to say it, this is just a bridge too far and as usual they circle the wagons and band together to perpetuate one anothers grifting enterprises. the video kim justice made loitering on prince of wales road talking shit at 10am or whatever was just the last straw for me with them too. never prepared to stick their neck out for something worth challenging or getting involved in but as soon as their mates have a grift on it’s on like donkey kong. pathetic.
They should have a new slogan “protect the revenue stream at all costs”. I do wonder what other ethical lines they’d cross to keep the machine going?
We don’t even know what hours they’ll be open as the pricks censored anyone who dared to ask. I’d bet on them opening for lunch only. Definitely not late into the night.
yes mate i’m hearing they refused to answer that question. utterly bizarre behaviour. i would say that is a fairly important bit of information to be shared regarding any business as in “when will it be open to function as a business so customers can give you money”. seems fucking baffling to be honest as to why that would be some closely guarded secret.
That will be the first negative review I’m sure “We travelled from the midlands to try out this new Barcadia and it was closed”.
“if only they’d posted the opening hours online anywhere !”
It’s beyond the pale. The most transparent grift I think I’ve ever seen. And yet, people continue to chuck their pennies into this poisoned well, despite the most obvious evidence that they just pushed themselves over the line, to secure the money pledged by everyone else. What is it about these personality vacuums that makes everyone in the UK retro community so eager to kiss their talentless arses? This surely signals the final death throes of the YouTube retro gaming “celebrity”, surely there will be no goodwill remaining for anyone else who tries this kind of shenanigans again.
In the 1980s a grifter was a crap Raleigh bike that weighed a ton and made you look poor when your mates all had BMXes.
Ahh, nostalgia.
You might say I’m something of a nostalgia nerd, but without the scruffy tramp beard.
I’ve asked myself time and time again., why is the money so easy to come by?
I can only think we need to look wider than retro. It’s the influencer thing. You are invited in to their lives, they share stuff about how happy and sad they are. They live stream stuff and chat away. They are your friend, you live through them,
It’s a brand and from that brand you can extend out. If you are big time you launch a perfume or a set of bum implants. If you are a risk adverse retro YouTuber who wants a fast buck, you write a book. Doesn’t matter if it’s crap. After all the suckers aren’t going to be reading it in Waterstones pre-purchase are they? They paid for it months in advance! And if the book doesn’t come out you just say you were sad but you tried really really hard. Or, as some people have done, you vanish off the face of the planet.
I don’t begrudge people making money. But I want them to be straight with me. You doing it for the love or because it’s better than doing another job more suited to your talents? How can you pretend to be an expert when every word that comes out of your mouth is written by someone else? When you have no love for the actual gear and can’t give a real opinion for fear of offending some of your audience? You have banal offend nobody output with no real opinions and you sit there reading the autocue dead eyed while waving your arms around to distract from ‘autocueitus’.
There are probably people reading this who think I’m a prick. That’s fair enough. But what would really wind me up is if someone thought I didn’t have a genuine love of this hobby or didn’t speak my own words.
The thing is not to let these idiots impact the rest of us. I enjoy sharing stuff with people. The good, the bad. The things running a Youtube channel has given me is meeting new people and being forced to discover new stuff outside my Amstrad/Spectrum/C64/Amiga comfort zone. I probably wouldn’t own an MSX without having the channel and that’s been a vast journey of discovery at times. Likewise getting my BBC out of storage and going “right about time I used this properly”. Yes I could probably do this without a channel but if I can encourage a few people along the way to try stuff out, it’s worth it.
Also Alan Sugar pays me 25 grand a year to shill for Amstrad, and lads, that makes it all worthwhile.
it’s americans mate. a lot of americans and people outside the uk. people in the uk are sick of these pricks and most of us know they’re desperate cunts. americans, however, bless them, they think of these people as quaint with their wacky british systems and suchlike and their accents (that are not american). i mean in america you have bastards like the game chasers, pat contri and all that shower so i can understand them looking further afield. however, the fact that these uk twats have the temerity to present themselves as “personalities” is the most ironic thing of all, as in order to be one i would at least presume that you have to have one. dialogue written by others, editing done by others, talking on topics they know fuck all about, it’s all just a front for vapid bastards who’ve discovered a nice little grifting niche and have figured out how to squeeze product and money from their deluded fans in the most passive aggressive, sneaky way possible.
the fake friend thing is very real, with people often paying a lot to get photos etc with influencers and suchlike and these z-grade bastards even though they are way down the u-bend still have some “clout” due to their ubiquity on social media and their apparently large youtube following (although if those followers really gave a shit something like barcadia would have been funded in seconds and they wouldn’t have needed to chuck in 5k themselves just to scrape over the line). people want these useless farts in human form to be reading out their names online, thanking them etc, as you say it makes them feel like they’ve a friend who respects them. it’s buying friendship, though, and that never works BUT as long as people are kept at arms length it’s fine. for example, ashens noticeably withered when faced with the possibility of meeting “fans” and i imagine they’re all like this. the entire scene for these twits is going to implode sooner or later and i think barcadia has lit a fuse that cannot be extinguished. as these bastards close ranks and fight to stay in the light i think things could become interesting and myself and others will be here to cover everything that unfolds !
i don’t think you’re a prick mate i think you’re alright !
I suspect many people are oblivious to what goes on and just take stuff at face value. I’m reminded of all the timeshare stuff in the 80’s. All sorts of people screaming “don’t do it” and people just walking into it anyway.
The only crumb of comfort I have is many of us were involved in the scene before these people arrived (be it posting on forums or whatever) and we’ll hopefully be here when these people are long gone.
And don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of new people getting interested in the 8 and 16 bits. And what motivates me is just trying to show it’s accessible and interesting. But it has to be for the right reasons. Be it seeing a new Vic 20 game (just been playing a superb new racing game) or getting someone interested in a system that have never used rather than sitting in their single machine silo (yes I know we all argued our corner at school but my secret dream was to own them all!).
Perhaps this happens to every hobby when the money moves in. It feels a far cry from the days of reading on CSS that Retro Gamer had launched and then it might go monthly. This seemed like madness. A magazine about old computers? Surely the only people who cared were the saddos like me posting on Usenet. This was going to fall on its arse! I was wrong! We were at the start of something.
Let alone I might have modern storage on my machines. Things were so bad by 2000 that that I only bought machines out for high days and holidays with my regular use being on emulation! Now I have everything on SD cards and all my machines are on in seconds! The support is amazing. Storage, power supplies, cables, signal converters. It’s fantastic and I am genuinely grateful to the people who sell these things. And I didn’t see the HxC chap, The Future Was 8 Bit or Mike Chi (Retro Tink) begging for money on Kickstarter. All 3 of those people fronted up their own cash for their products. Terrifying amounts I suspect for some of the products (tooling for injection moulded cases alone is big money).
There’s lots to be grateful for in the community and the people contributing throw those who just see it as a cash cow into sharp relief. We need to celebrate those who have given something and throw the e-begging grifters in the bin.
Those guys are great. Making things which actually benefit the retro gaming community rather than releasing an ego massaging book.
Voultar is another gem – always really helpful, friendly and his soldering videos have been a god send. Rob of RetroRGB too. His website is a goldmine of retro goodness, and his weekly podcasts, which are free, are a delight. These guys and gals are proper retro gaming enthusiasts.
It’s what’s called, in prostitution circles, the GFE – girlfriend experience.
You pay money so that they can pretend they are in a relationship with you. At least until the money runs out.
it is really quite something mate, i’ll give them that. peter has finally blocked me on facebook because he posted a picture where he was smiling like cherie blair. i think a lot of their fans are americans who find their quaint “britishness” a plus whereas to real british people we just see intolerable arseholes.
As the saying goes a fool and his money. Even if come of comments on the KS where trolling there are valid questions like opening hours, cost to play, and my favourite what is the relationship with slice and dice. I object to being called a troll simply because I did into fall inline and started asking questions about where a signifiant amount of money was going. Its very clear this site is being discussed at length in some new discord mk2. They really pulled out the big guns getting Quag and Kim. Its clear Ashens does not even care enough to make a video. He alone has over a million subs on YT you are not telling me he could not get a single sponsorship for £25k if he really wanted to and believed in the project. As George and others have said before the YT UK retro well is running dry and they all know it so they need other income streams. However a vegan retro arcade bar in the wrong part of town opening during the worst income squeeze in living memory is not it. If arcades where such great money makers and people still wanted to go to them they would be all over the place Quag. People need to get out of the retro bubble and see what’s really going on.
were you “wayne” ? i thought a lot of what i saw, and i didn’t see it all in fairness, was quite reasonable. relentless yes but i would say it was reasonable. and you are right mate these people need to move their grift elsewhere as it’s clear that the well of youtube “fame” isn’t producing the sweet water it once did. someone (all these cunts) has filled it with stools !
No I was not Wayne that was more effort than I was willing to put in. Like you said a lot of people in this hobby are on the “on the spectrum” so can therefore get hyper focused on things. Wayne might have been a troll or just someone with a lot of questions. Like I said it does not matter ether way, they were all valid questions. Something simple like opening times should be an easy answer
i’m not sure i saw the opening times question and christ, yes, that would surely have been one of the easiest possible questions to answer. sort of day one business design sort of thing isn’t it ? what hours do you open ? what i disliked the most is that anyone with an actually reasonable question or a plethora thereof just got written off as a troll. peter is a spineless, barefaced grifter and that’s all he’s interested in. “oh thanks hun” is about his level and no more. actual interaction can’t be expected from someone who can’t even be arsed to write his own content any more and farms it out to someone who has an actually established track record of failing to write their own content, too ! (video games saved my life, anyone ?)
A last minute push over the line against the trend of where the campaign was headed is exactly what I expected to happen.
Get ready for a crowd funder for the book of how they opened their own bar followed by a crowdfunder to keep this ‘unique’ venue afloat.
The one advantage of being an Amstrad owner is at least all the parasites stay away from our scene as nobody can be arsed doing a CPC Mini or some terrible coffee table book where emulated screenshots of Bridge It are blown up over 2 A4 sized pages
I’m sure the GX4000 mini is in the planning stages 😀
“The Roland Story: How a shape shifter defined a micro”
Hawken has done a few Amstrad books though.
Kind of distracted by the awesome footage of the game being played haha! What’s it called?
UN Squadron mate it’s on the arcade and the SNES and to be honest the SNES is the better version as you can choose your route through the game, although it loses the two player option from what i recall.
Cheers mate. Will give it a whirl.
it’s a great game mate also another arcade game that’s surprisingly easy. the SNES version is definitely worth checking out too !
The old saying about a fool and their money… has never been more true than here.
We knew certain individuals would help push this over the line and we know Peter will be back sooner or later, asking for more money, to keep the venue the afloat, citing rising energy costs etc.
I thought i had seen it all, when people crowd funded a book that hadn’t even been written (but we are assured is being written as we speak 🤔).
But this, marketed as if it’s something Norwich has been crying out for, for years.
Anywho, I await the inevitable angry feedback, when the great unwashed that use the venue, find a distinct absence of expected YT celbs present and themselves pretty much ignored by the likes of Peter, as they are deemed unworthy of his time.
Now the fun truly begins…
I forgot about this angle. Over the coming weeks and months, we can bear witness to what happens.
I don’t think anyone will be surprised if he comes back, cap in hand asking for more money.
They are going to have massive overheads
Rent
Gas / Electric
Waste disposal
Rent of machines
Staff
The list goes on
Do they even have a business plan, how many vegan burgers will they need to sell just to keep the lights on. Six months and it will be gone (in its current form) I am 100% sure of this now. Slice and dice along with Barcadia will become one and the same before then. I can see then coming back to the KS well one last time to try and keep the lights on before the end
Well…. If you check
https://www.norwich.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/8881/all_live_accounts_with_rv_and_reliefs_-_march_2023.xlsx
And look at line 2915, it would appear that the rates are now going to be due as there is an “Upto 6 months” period where you would not pay due to being unoccupied.
That would have started end October 2022 so, 6 months later, you are looking at end April for that to expire.
Nice timing.
the thing with these people is that this now sets a precedent for anyone to step up to grift and it doesn’t even matter if they have a finished product or not. the other standout current grift is octavius and her a to z of badly written, depressing situations. that’s yet to surface because it’s “tough work”. well, if i was getting paid to sit and make a show of myself pissing about with rats on twitch i’d probably not bother putting pen to paper either ! i feel bad for people who are at their wits end with financial worry when we have beaming simpletons like this racking up a disaster on someone elses dime just for the sheer jollies of it. it’s absolutely bizarre and tantamount to spitting in the face of reality. cloud cuckoo land.
I have pledged for that book. I must be a simp (but not a bad one.)
indeed mate, good luck with that ! at the very best, if it’s ever published, it’ll be a misery manual ! can i ask WHY you pledged mate ? not being funny here, was it a perceived allegiance with the person involved, was it a desire to buy into their favour, what was the actual reason ? again, i’m just curious as to why people fund stuff like this. my aspergers would prevent me from funding anything that can’t get tetris right, to be honest (see book cover)
Blinded by tits probably is the right answer, but did enjoy her earlier content, and thought it may be along those lines and a way of supporting a creator. Seems so long ago pledging that I do feel a dunce for doing so. Cest la vie.
mate the internet is full of tits and you don’t have to pay anything for them or listen to the majority talking about self deletion and ptsd :/
A moment of weakness…I am not a Patreon or Twitch sub, so at least there’s no ongoing financial support.
YouTube is a strange world. Much prefer the Chinnyvision, Rod Hull style etc who have no delusions of grandeur.
Keep fighting the good fight, will report on the book in 2025…if I’m lucky.
That’s what I was thinking. If it failed then that would not be very newsworthy. We now have Youtube reviews, Trip Advisor, Google Reviews to read and laugh at. There will be a lot of ordinary joe public types expecting to get a cow burger in there instead of all the Mekon food.
Haha! I hadn’t considered the Wild West that is the public review platforms.
“Peter wouldn’t sign my tits and I blocked the loo with a massive sweetcorn laden shit. 5 out of 5, highly recommended”
We can only hope that Hawken pays a visit and writes a book about it 😀
That said, Hawken would get the name of the place wrong and call it “Berkadia” or something.
So many strange people out there, makes no sense to me at all why anybody would fund somebody else’s business.
Especially when there are so many legit ways to get money.
Surely if Slice and Dice is profitable the bank alone would jump at the chance to give them, what is in reality, a small loan to expand?
I know people who were unemployed but yet were loaned thousands by local Govt schemes to start their own businesses in the name of unemployment figures and boosting local economies.
One can only assume the financials are not great, are seen as a liability and KS was a last resort. They are already in hock to their necks or this nothing but a pure grift.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the bank was the last place to go.
Didn’t Sam ask for 5K a while ago to help improve Slice and Dice so there is form there.
I also watched the NN video he did in 2016 where he asked “as joke” to fund a new PC.
He keeps maintaining in the video that it was a joke and experiment and didn’t really want the money but he kept it anyway.
It’s just money for nothing at the end of the day. I’m more annoyed at the people who gave them the money than the Barcadia lot tbh.
Ffs I just seen someone on YouTube asking if they can still donate!! 😅
one born every minute mate :-p
according to companies house, slice and dice is delinquent to the tune of around 25k. i’m no accountant but that’s what the figures say.
25k. Hmmm. Where have I heard that amount recently?
I wonder if the bank refused funding due to being 25k in debt and won’t loan any money until it is cleared?
Be interesting to see the accounts for Slice and Dice next year to see if that 25K has been mysteriously wiped out.
it will be interesting indeed, if it’s still a functioning entity and hasn’t become BOARDCADIA by then :-/
That’s probably a good shout
“See Mr Bank man, I can just raise £25k as and when I like. You’d be insane not to invest in us…….yes I’m filming this… for a YouTube series”
I was an accountant, it’s actually around the £60k mark
That’s before the assets are offset against it, isn’t it? Either way, s+d is in the red, and that’s never the time to expand ones empire. A most counterintuitive move on Sam’s part.
Does it mention the turnover and income? be interesting to see how much they actual take in vs going out. Naturally energy prices are high and should fall, but then with a choice between two political parties who are both pushing the net zero thing the only way is up for all our bills, making people poor means they generate less CO2 (but more methane from increased baked bean consumption).
That sounds about right. I don’t have the figures in front of me, but Slice+Dice had something like 60k in current liabilities yet only 35k in assets (mainly fixed assets).
For non accountants:
– current liabilities = debts due in the next 12 months
– fixed assets = assets that may be difficult to sell and are often mandatory for the business to function
Dont worry according to some write up in a local rag I saw. Sam is going to spilt her time between the two businesses. Which reads like they are both going to be open at the same time. Therefore further splitting the vegan crowd who are willing to pay £18 for a burger. However what do I know, I am just a simple troll at the end of the day who knows nothing about business, arcades, vegans, or Norwich
Everyone knows that the vegans that like playing retro arcade games when eating a mushroom burger are a totally different crowd to the vegans who play board games when eating a mushroom burger.
Remember they can’t be a true vegan place if they have avocados on the menu as most avocado farms use bees to pollinate the flowers.
It happens, tough trading conditions and all that. Just today a friend of mine said the cafe near to him which I’ve visited with him in the past it looking for donations to reopen. It’s a bit of a casual “open when I feel like it” sort of place, so I’m not surprised it is struggling.
Maybe next time I’m walking down the street I’ll give someone £5,000 and ask them to come wash my windows.